Court-Martialed For Hanging Up on a Colonel...

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MikeKozlowski
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https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-for ... ial-phone/

Something ain't right here, on both sides of the fence. I'll hold off on my analysis until we get a few comments.

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MikeKozlowski wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:10 pm https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-for ... ial-phone/

Something ain't right here, on both sides of the fence. I'll hold off on my analysis until we get a few comments.

Mike
Failure to turn up to work; guilty of being a major PITA and of full on use of nose candy.

I suspect that pissing her colonel off was enough to get her a court appearance.
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Well, she's guilty of being a nuisance in her last six months after coming back from the Phillippines.

There's enough uncertainty in the cocaine urinalysis that it should be thrown out. Minor amount, significant lab issues, and no other evidence. That one would have been ripe for requiring a confirmation sample or a hair follicle test.

Overall, I think the court decided that they could convict on the disrespect charge, throw the rest out, and it would be fair result. Sort of a version of guilty on the broken tail light, not guilty on going 85 in a 60 zone even though everyone knows they done dun it.
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MikeKozlowski wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:10 pm https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-for ... ial-phone/

Something ain't right here, on both sides of the fence. I'll hold off on my analysis until we get a few comments.

Mike
It’s a mess.

As the IG report noted, it could have been handled better, but I can easily see both the colonel, court and general deciding the captain was exaggerating her situation and lollygagging, especially given the medical record that labeled her as exaggerating her symptoms to avoid duty, and deciding she should be punished, but not harshly.

Honestly, it looks like the Air Force benefited by separating both of them.
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The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

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JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 pm The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

Jonathan
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JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 pm The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

Jonathan
Cocaine at very dilute quantities is used in a variety of ophthalmologic settings as an anesthetic or to dilate your eyes for examination.

You can also get detectable cocaine levels from the environment.
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Depending on the tests, there can also be blatant 'false positives'...

Also, IIRC, were not a lot of US bank-notes contaminated with 'nose candy' ??

Whatever, I suspect said Captain was much safer 'de-militarised'...
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Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:49 pm Depending on the tests, there can also be blatant 'false positives'...

Also, IIRC, were not a lot of US bank-notes contaminated with 'nose candy' ??

Whatever, I suspect said Captain was much safer 'de-militarised'...
It very much looks like a screw-up across the board, and none of the principals come off looking very well.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:05 pm
JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 pm The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

Jonathan
Cocaine at very dilute quantities is used in a variety of ophthalmologic settings as an anesthetic or to dilate your eyes for examination.

You can also get detectable cocaine levels from the environment.
You're no fun!

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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:05 pm
JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 pm The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

Jonathan
Cocaine at very dilute quantities is used in a variety of ophthalmologic settings as an anesthetic or to dilate your eyes for examination.

You can also get detectable cocaine levels from the environment.
Last figure I saw said that 90% of the US money supply has detectable cocaine residue on it.
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JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:07 pm
Johnnie Lyle wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:05 pm
JBG wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:59 pm The article refers to "wrongful use of cocaine"...

The regs prescribe a proper use?

Jonathan
Cocaine at very dilute quantities is used in a variety of ophthalmologic settings as an anesthetic or to dilate your eyes for examination.

You can also get detectable cocaine levels from the environment.
You're no fun!

Jonathan
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