The Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier: What Guns Do The Sentinels Carry? Part 1: Pistols

[jemhouston]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tomb- ... d-pistols/

Interested history lesson

[Nightwatch2]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tomb- ... d-pistols/

Interested history lesson

Interesting! Thanks!!

[jemhouston]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tomb- ... d-pistols/

Interested history lesson

Interesting! Thanks!!

You're welcomed.

[MikeKozlowski]

...I just love the fact that a weapon made specifically for that duty has the word SILENCE embossed on it.

Mike

[jemhouston]

The fact Sig made special weapons for the duty is impressive

[Bernard Woolley]

Only in America!

IMVHO, the M14s the Sentinels carry won't be loaded, which is not to say they don't carry ammunition for them. There is always a chance of an ND from a loaded weapon, even if it remote. There's zero chance if they're not loaded. I'm pretty sure our ceremonial guards don't keep their L85s loaded either. In the unlikely event there is a need to use lethal force the Sentinels have bayonets on their M14s. In the UK many years ago a Guardsman used his fixed bayonet to fend someone off from the late Queen's carriage until the man was detained.

I'd also say using 7.62mm, or 5.56mm rounds in a location likely to be filled with bystanders is not optimal. No worries about over-penetration with cold steel!

The fact Sig made special weapons for the duty is impressive

Give a company money to make something for you and they'll make it.

[jemhouston]

Beretta made M9 for the Tomb Guards also. Which I didn't know until I just did some research on it.

[jemhouston]

The Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier: What Guns Do The Sentinels Carry? Part 2: The Rifle

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tomb- ... rd-rifles/

[Simon Darkshade]

The guard at the Tomb today had to yell at the entourage of Sec. Hegseth after one woman laughed rather loudly right before it.

[Bernard Woolley]

I saw that Kegsbreath and his staff seemed to be taking group photos at the memorial. Which, IMVHO, is odd. I do hope there is no comeback from the SECDEF to that guard.

[Davion Highlander]

I doubt even Hegseth is stupid enough to openly punish the guard. Which isn't to say he won't try and do it behind closed doors.

[Bernard Woolley]

I have a feeling that his next posting might be to Alaska. That assumes Party Pete is still heading the Defense Department long enough to influence the soldier's next career move.

[jemhouston]

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/pet ... n-soldier/

[MikeKozlowski]

I have a feeling that his next posting might be to Alaska. That assumes Party Pete is still heading the Defense Department long enough to influence the soldier's next career move.

....SECWAR went to ANC this morning and personally congratulated/decorated the Guard who got people's attention. My understanding is that Hegseth and his family were properly behaved; it was the staffers who came with him that weren't - and at this point my only complaint about the whole thing is that they aren't yet unemployed today.

One other thing, and I ask my friends' indulgence and understanding on this: Hegseth was a combat infantry veteran who had developed an issue with alcohol. In that, he would have been far from alone over the last few centuries. He appears to have it under control, and what is in the past is past - he was confirmed according to Hoyle, and has so far done an excellent job. By all means disagree on him with regards to policy and personality, but I would like to ask if we not use the drinking nicknames when that issue has not come up during his tenure.

Mike

[Bernard Woolley]

....SECWAR SECDEF went to ANC this morning and personally congratulated/decorated the Guard who got people's attention. <SNIP>

One other thing, and I ask my friends' indulgence and understanding on this: <SNIP>

I'm glad that the SECDEF seems to have done the right thing (FIFY, btw).

I will not use any nicknames for him that refer to his issues with addiction. His fitness, or otherwise, for the post of Secretary of Defense is something that can be discussed elsewhere. My only request is that we stop calling him SECWAR and referring to the Department of War. Since Congress has not legally changed the name of the DoD, the titles that were good enough for every SECDEF since 1947 are still in force. Secondly, the title is ahistorical, as previously the War Department was only responsible for the army (including AAF).

[MikeKozlowski]

....SECWAR SECDEF went to ANC this morning and personally congratulated/decorated the Guard who got people's attention. <SNIP>

One other thing, and I ask my friends' indulgence and understanding on this: <SNIP>

I'm glad that the SECDEF seems to have done the right thing (FIFY, btw).

I will not use any nicknames for him that refer to his issues with addiction. His fitness, or otherwise, for the post of Secretary of Defense is something that can be discussed elsewhere. My only request is that we stop calling him SECWAR and referring to the Department of War. Since Congress has not legally changed the name of the DoD, the titles that were good enough for every SECDEF since 1947 are still in force. Secondly, the title is ahistorical, as previously the War Department was only responsible for the army (including AAF).

Bernard,

Fair enough - SECDEF it is, and DOD it shall be.

Mike

[Bernard Woolley]