OOC Thread

[Matt Wiser]

Bernard mentioned on the previous board that there was a NATO-Iraq War in 2003, and that would presumably have involved the U.S..

[Lordroel]

Bernard mentioned on the previous board that there was a NATO-Iraq War in 2003, and that would presumably have involved the U.S..

Still why, Iraq did not invade as far as i know Kuwait and the Iraq-Iran War ended in 1986 due to lack of support as their biggest backers where fighting each other in World War III.

[Wolfman]

WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction), Lordroel.

[Lordroel]

WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction), Lordroel.

WMDs are more normal in this universe than ours, also they have been used a lot more, Iraq having some does not pose a threat to NATO, the Rump Soviet Union sis.

[Wolfman]

Add in Saddam Hussein and you’ve got a recipe for trouble that the US (and NATO) would prefer to stop sooner rather than later…

[Lordroel]

Post it here, would this work.

Photo: The destroyer USS John young (DD 973) shells a pair of Mexican command and control platforms that where places close to its shore, 1988.

Ore should i change it into captured Texan oil platforms.

[Matt Wiser]

Those should be Mexican ones: Texas and Louisiana platforms were off-limits to attack as they were needed for postwar reconstruction.

[Lordroel]

This photo is of Dutch marines cross training during a joint exercise with the USMC in Florida (1989), we now that British forces where present in Florida for the invasion of Cuba, can we make it canon that the Dutch Marines are part of the United Kingdom/Netherlands Amphibious Force (UK/NL AF) under British command.

[Wolfman]

ISTR that the Dutch Marine Commandos got around their nation’s neutrality by picking up their World War II British unit designation (and the Dutch government was none-to-pleased about it)…

[Lordroel]

ISTR that the Dutch Marine Commandos got around their nation’s neutrality by picking up their World War II British unit designation (and the Dutch government was none-to-pleased about it)…

But by 1989 they where not neutral anymore, ore am i wrong.

[Matt Wiser]

The Dutch Government was neutralist until the "Turnover in Government" just before the Bundeswehr decided the Greens had been around long enough. They rejoined NATO when it reformed, and fought in the 1989 campaign, but the Dutch Marines? They went to the British, fought with the Royal Marines in Iceland and on Kola, and only when NATO reformed did they go back to Dutch Command.

[Lordroel]

Matt over at AH.com you have posted that the Kuznetsov was scrapped but i over this year have posted these, i am not happy that they are no longer canon as the pics and the post i made fit in the Red Dawn verse.

Photo I, the Russian Republic Navy flagship, the Aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov during a naval exercises in 1996.



Photo II: the Russian Republic Navy flagship, the Aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov (063) on the foreground and Russian battlecruiser Pyotr Velikiy (099) in the background during a naval exercises in 2018.



Photo III: the then Soviet Navy flagship, the Aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov during fitting out phase 1988-1992. When the Second Russian Civil War broke there where attempts by Pro-Soviet workers to sabotage here but they failed and she was fully operational in 1995 as the flagship of the Russian Republic Navy.



Photo IV: Russian Republic Navy destroyer Admiral Ushakov (434), the Russian Republic Navy flagship, the Aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and destroyer Skory (702) spotted by a Royal Norwegian Air Force P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft in the Norwegian Sea, 1996



Photo V: the Russian Republic Navy aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov during here the 1994 sea trials, Su-33, MiG-29K, and Su-25UTG can been spotted on here deck, by 1995 she was fully operational as the flagship of the Russian Republic Navy.

[Matt Wiser]

You could still use them, but say, show them as during her workups in the Black Sea.

The Russian Republic Navy would have mainly submarines, including missile boats, with a few larger ships that survived WW III and the Civil War. Most of their ships would be destroyer sized or smaller, with frigates and corvettes predominating.

[Lordroel]

You could still use them, but say, show them as during her workups in the Black Sea.

With all the post i made over at my forum related to here and the Russian Republic Navy, it is going to be hard as there are a lot of them posted.

[Lordroel]

I had this, but is it canon ore do i need to edit it.

Photo: During a combat patrol 260 km off the Atlantic coast of Florida a fire broke out onboard the Barbel-class submarine USS Bonefish (SS-582). The crew was evacuated and the submarine was scuttled.

[Matt Wiser]

Looks good, but they would want to make sure she was in deep water before pulling the plug that last time.

[Lordroel]

Looks good, but they would want to make sure she was in deep water before pulling the plug that last time.

Would it not be worth to try to tow here ore was the risk of Soviet/Cuban air ore naval attacks still to high in 1988.

[Matt Wiser]

In 1988? There were still SNAF Backfires in Cuba (stuck there after the liberation of Iceland), and also SNAF Su-24s. The threat was there. So the decision to scuttle would be an easy one. Just get her into some deep water so that any kind of salvage-even a theoretical one-would be out of the question. They would take the code books with them upon abandon ship being ordered, then have a couple of brave souls open the diving vents one last time, then scramble up the conning tower, out the hatch, and don't look back as she goes down for the last time.

[Wolfman]

Would those BACKFIREs be worth a couple of visits from the BUFFs?