Air Force Grounds M18 Pistols After Fatal Discharge at F.E. Warren Air Force Base

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Air Force Grounds M18 Pistols After Fatal Discharge at F.E. Warren Air Force Base

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I've been thinking about buying a Sig 320, I think I'll wait.


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I think the interesting thing might be what the Australians and other militaries (if any, I can't think of anyone else apart from small purchases for special forces) who have adopted P320 variants do.

A few anecdotal reports of police departments dumping P320s onto the second hand market in order to afford replacements following the FBI report about the MSP pistol that allegedly went off untouched in its holster.
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jemhouston wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:41 pm Links only

https://sofrep.com/news/air-force-groun ... orce-base/

I've been thinking about buying a Sig 320, I think I'll wait.
I thought about it too but the reports have been too numerous for comfort.

I think I’ll stick with my Beretta
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Nightwatch2 wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:46 pm
jemhouston wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:41 pm Links only

https://sofrep.com/news/air-force-groun ... orce-base/

I've been thinking about buying a Sig 320, I think I'll wait.
I thought about it too but the reports have been too numerous for comfort.

I think I’ll stick with my Beretta
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I had a P320 for a bit. Shot great and I really liked it.

Then the videos came out of them discharging when dropped on the back of the slide. I was less than pleased given it was my carry gun at the time, and the way Sig handled it and "fixed" the problem turned me off to the design and the company. Wife bought me a Glock 19 the next weekend and I traded the P320 for a Glock 17.
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Things got worse for Sig

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IIRC, there was a revolver, dual action, with a similar vice.

There was a 'thriller' episode --'The New Avengers' ??--where hero, told to 'drop the gun' did so, the jolt firing it upon the villain who, dismayed, was soon over-come...

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The plot thickens . . .
Air Force makes arrest in airman’s shooting death involving M18 pistol
By Stephen Losey
August 8, 2025

The Air Force has arrested an airman in connection with the July 20 death of another airman, which involved a Sig Sauer M18 and led the service to suspend the use of the pistol following the incident.

In a Friday statement, a Department of the Air Force spokesperson said that the unidentified arrested person is accused of making a false official statement, obstruction of justice and involuntary manslaughter.

Air Force Global Strike Command pulled the M18 from use after Brayden Lovan, a 21-year-old remote targeting engagement system operator in the 90th Security Forces Group at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming, was fatally shot with that pistol.

The service’s Office of Special Investigations is still investigating Lovan’s death.

“As with all individuals accused of a crime, the person arrested in this case is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law,” the spokesperson said.

No further details about the circumstances surrounding Lovan’s death or the arrest were available.

The M18, along with the M17, is a derivative of Sig Sauer’s P320 that the Air Force and Army have used. However, the P320 pistol has faced allegations that it is prone to going off accidentally without the trigger being pulled. Sig Sauer has strongly denied those allegations and said its pistols do not discharge unless the trigger is pulled.
Per another article: "The suspect’s charges indicate investigators believe Lovan’s death was likely the result of a negligent discharge in which the gun’s trigger was accidentally pulled and the gun fired."
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