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[James1978]

Does her official biography give any insight?

CMDCS (SW/EXW/IW/AW) Grisel Marrero
Command Senior Enlisted Leader, USS Manchester (LCS 14) Gold Crew
08 September 2022

Senior Chief Petty Officer Grisel Marrero joined the Navy on August 20, 2002. After completing basic training at Recruit Training Command, Great Lakes she attended Information Systems Technician “A” school at NTC Great Lakes, Ill. She holds a Bachelor’s degree and a Master’s degree in Business Administration with a concentration in Information Security and Digital Management. Marrero is a graduate of U.S. Navy Senior Enlisted Academy (Class 225/Green).

Marrero first served at Submarine Group Eight, followed by U.S. Second Fleet as the afloat Flag communicator. She was Sailor of the Year at Combat Direction Systems Activity Dam Neck, completed two combat deployments with Mobile Communications Team attached to SEAL Team Two, and held multiple positions in the joint intelligence and operations departments at U.S. Southern Command.

After serving as the Navy element Senior Enlisted Leader at SOUTHCOM, Marrero was selected for the Command Senior Enlisted Program in February 2021.

Marrero is the Command Senior Chief for USS Manchester (LCS 14) Gold crew.

Her personal awards include the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal (three awards), Army Commendation Medal, Joint Service Achievement Medal (four awards), Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal (four awards), Army Achievement Medal, Navy Good Conduct Medal (six awards), Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, and various other unit and campaign awards.

Sounds like she spent most of her career ashore and may have grown attached to certain comforts ashore.

[James1978]

I’m very disappointed in that crew if they didn’t have that network pw cracked within a few days. A submarine crew would have done that out of boredom if nothing else.

Is it the opinion of the board that the MBA turned that chief evil, or was she evil before she got the MBA? I have to say that if she wasn’t even bright enough to hide the WiFi network an MBA in infosec wasn’t worth much.

Diving to safe depth….

If she got the MBA at Harvard Business School, that confirms HBS = 2/3 BS.

Assuming that that aren't multiple Grisel Marreros in the USN with a LinkledIn profile, she got her Bachelor and MBA from Trident University International.

[kdahm]

How the hell did this happen? Do the ships not take a pause after major port visits, turn off almost everything that should be radiating, and run a sweep to see if there's anything unexpected? Isn't there a log of everything that should be radiating? Up-traffic on the Starlink should be detectable, at least. And the CO and XO should have or easily be able to generate a list of every authorized wi-fi network.

The entire Goat Locker should get the Big Chicken Dinner. Some for taking part in it, some for knowing about it and not doing anything.

[Poohbah]

How the hell did this happen? Do the ships not take a pause after major port visits, turn off almost everything that should be radiating, and run a sweep to see if there's anything unexpected? Isn't there a log of everything that should be radiating? Up-traffic on the Starlink should be detectable, at least. And the CO and XO should have or easily be able to generate a list of every authorized wi-fi network.

The entire Goat Locker should get the Big Chicken Dinner. Some for taking part in it, some for knowing about it and not doing anything.

THIS.

Damn it, Chiefs are supposed to set the example.

[Johnnie Lyle]

How the hell did this happen? Do the ships not take a pause after major port visits, turn off almost everything that should be radiating, and run a sweep to see if there's anything unexpected? Isn't there a log of everything that should be radiating? Up-traffic on the Starlink should be detectable, at least. And the CO and XO should have or easily be able to generate a list of every authorized wi-fi network.

The entire Goat Locker should get the Big Chicken Dinner. Some for taking part in it, some for knowing about it and not doing anything.

THIS.

Damn it, Chiefs are supposed to set the example.

Oh, they set an example all right. Not the example successful navies set, but one increasingly common in the US.

[Jotun]

Is this for real? I had COMSEC and EMCON drilled into me from basic training onwards as a very junior enlisted radio operator. What's particularly interesting about this case is the criminal energy the chiefs displayed, and the absolute ineptitude of the CO and XO(s) in unovering the illicit WiFi.
Everybody who isn't completely computer illiterate could do that. In a pinch, turn up somebody who studied computer science. It isn't rocket surgery, after all

What kind of muppets rise to command these days? And what kind of attitude shapes that awful kind of senior NCOs?

[Poohbah]

Is this for real? I had COMSEC and EMCON drilled into me from basic training onwards as a very junior enlisted radio operator. What's particularly interesting about this case is the criminal energy the chiefs displayed, and the absolute ineptitude of the CO and XO(s) in unovering the illicit WiFi.
Everybody who isn't completely computer illiterate could do that. In a pinch, turn up somebody who studied computer science. It isn't rocket surgery, after all

What kind of muppets rise to command these days? And what kind of attitude shapes that awful kind of senior NCOs?

I wasn't a radio operator, I just stayed awake during the threat briefings where they told us that if you didn't get the f*** outta Dodge after transmitting for over 15 seconds, you were going to die in an artillery barrage.

It's interesting that all of the junior enlisted knew the score long before the wardroom did. If I'd been one of the junior guys, I would have started hunting for the antenna and taken it down to the Skipper's cabin...

[Johnnie Lyle]

Is this for real? I had COMSEC and EMCON drilled into me from basic training onwards as a very junior enlisted radio operator. What's particularly interesting about this case is the criminal energy the chiefs displayed, and the absolute ineptitude of the CO and XO(s) in unovering the illicit WiFi.
Everybody who isn't completely computer illiterate could do that. In a pinch, turn up somebody who studied computer science. It isn't rocket surgery, after all

What kind of muppets rise to command these days? And what kind of attitude shapes that awful kind of senior NCOs?

Sadly, yes. We have had similar com breaches before. We have also had a lot of piss-poor leadership, and a Navy personnel system that is not very good at screening out people who should not be in the Big Chair before they put their butt in it.

A huge part is complacency. We’ve been so used to fighting a 7th century enemy that we have allowed ourselves to get lax and lose a lot of key military understanding because it wasn’t daily refreshed in blood.

[jemhouston]

I hope we won't run out of ships and people before we relearn the basic lessons.

[Nightwatch2]

DDG CO fired for the viral photo of him shooting a rifle with the scope mounted backwards.

He was on an at sea visit to the amphibious ship and handed the rifle for a “firepower demo”.

Not his skill set. Certainly a bit of an “oops”, but to be relieved of command six months later while deployed in a combat zone?

Throwing the BS flag. There has to be something else behind this.

A couple of truisms;

You promote in your Officer Corps, and in the Goat Locker, what you promote them for.

If you fire good people for minor things, the good people will leave.

[Belushi TD]

Ok.... I've never served in the military. My understanding of security and so forth comes from both reading I've done and from the people I've met on this board.

Even I'm saying "WHAT THE EVERLOVING JESUS TITTYF%$#INGCHRIST is going on here?"

None of the people involved were thinking about anything other than downloading porn. Howinthehell did they think they were going to be able to avoid being caught?

Even back in my stupid alcohol soaked fraternity days, "DON'T GET CAUGHT" was a HUGE part of operational planning for ANYTHING we were contemplating doing.

Belushi TD

[Poohbah]

DDG CO fired for the viral photo of him shooting a rifle with the scope mounted backwards.

He was on an at sea visit to the amphibious ship and handed the rifle for a “firepower demo”.

Not his skill set. Certainly a bit of an “oops”, but to be relieved of command six months later while deployed in a combat zone?

Throwing the BS flag. There has to be something else behind this.

A couple of truisms;

You promote in your Officer Corps, and in the Goat Locker, what you promote them for.

If you fire good people for minor things, the good people will leave.

The viral photo resulted in a command climate investigation, and THAT is what got him relieved.

Do not piss off the E-4 Mafia.

[Poohbah]

Ok.... I've never served in the military. My understanding of security and so forth comes from both reading I've done and from the people I've met on this board.

Even I'm saying "WHAT THE EVERLOVING JESUS TITTYF%$#INGCHRIST is going on here?"

None of the people involved were thinking about anything other than downloading porn. Howinthehell did they think they were going to be able to avoid being caught?

Even back in my stupid alcohol soaked fraternity days, "DON'T GET CAUGHT" was a HUGE part of operational planning for ANYTHING we were contemplating doing.

Belushi TD

As a proud past member of the Lance Corporal Mafia, I can attest that we had better OPSEC planning than these idiots.

[Johnnie Lyle]

DDG CO fired for the viral photo of him shooting a rifle with the scope mounted backwards.

He was on an at sea visit to the amphibious ship and handed the rifle for a “firepower demo”.

Not his skill set. Certainly a bit of an “oops”, but to be relieved of command six months later while deployed in a combat zone?

Throwing the BS flag. There has to be something else behind this.

A couple of truisms;

You promote in your Officer Corps, and in the Goat Locker, what you promote them for.

If you fire good people for minor things, the good people will leave.

The viral photo resulted in a command climate investigation, and THAT is what got him relieved.

Do not piss off the E-4 Mafia.

Being publicly made a fool also could have further exacerbated flaws in his personality and command style leading to his splody pips detonating.

[Nightwatch2]

DDG CO fired for the viral photo of him shooting a rifle with the scope mounted backwards.

He was on an at sea visit to the amphibious ship and handed the rifle for a “firepower demo”.

Not his skill set. Certainly a bit of an “oops”, but to be relieved of command six months later while deployed in a combat zone?

Throwing the BS flag. There has to be something else behind this.

A couple of truisms;

You promote in your Officer Corps, and in the Goat Locker, what you promote them for.

If you fire good people for minor things, the good people will leave.

The viral photo resulted in a command climate investigation, and THAT is what got him relieved.

Do not piss off the E-4 Mafia.

Being publicly made a fool also could have further exacerbated flaws in his personality and command style leading to his splody pips detonating.

Oh I get those comments! I know exactly what both of you said.

Which goes along with my first comment,

There is something else to this story.

[Johnnie Lyle]

The viral photo resulted in a command climate investigation, and THAT is what got him relieved.

Do not piss off the E-4 Mafia.

Being publicly made a fool also could have further exacerbated flaws in his personality and command style leading to his splody pips detonating.

Oh I get those comments! I know exactly what both of you said.

Which goes along with my first comment,

There is something else to this story.

The usual USN personnel system being unable to weed unsuitable people out before putting them in the Big Chair?

[Drunknsubmrnr]

Being set up to look like an idiot by your own crew does not exactly compliment your leadership skills.

[Pdf27]

It's interesting that all of the junior enlisted knew the score long before the wardroom did. If I'd been one of the junior guys, I would have started hunting for the antenna and taken it down to the Skipper's cabin...

Given that there were several attempts to pass notes to the CO/XO to inform them of this via a postbox which were intercepted by the chiefs, I'd bet that there was a certain amount of intimidation going on towards anybody who looked like speaking up.

[Straker]

With the Starlink setup why wouldn't they take the fairly elementary measure and turn off SSID broadcast. Then it wouldn't have been visible to other peoples devices on the ship unless they used a scanner (app or physical) to find it.

If you are going to due stupid things with technology at least try to be clever about it... or not.

[Poohbah]

It's interesting that all of the junior enlisted knew the score long before the wardroom did. If I'd been one of the junior guys, I would have started hunting for the antenna and taken it down to the Skipper's cabin...

Given that there were several attempts to pass notes to the CO/XO to inform them of this via a postbox which were intercepted by the chiefs, I'd bet that there was a certain amount of intimidation going on towards anybody who looked like speaking up.

And that raises all kinds of questions in itself.