Then there is the Zapatista Army of National Liberation who controls the Mexican territory in Chiapas, so that are two of the factions that are fighting.Poohbah wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:17 pmBut EVERYONE hates the People's Santerist Liberation Front. Politics: Voodoo-Marxist, communal ownership of the spirit world. They have a penchant for getting wired on ice and dancer, so they're inhumanly fast (well, until their hearts blow out) AND clinically psychotic.jemhouston wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:42 pm Rumor has it that the DOD's position is, "We kind of hoping everyone loses, and pass the popcorn." Same source is when one group loses too bad, the CIA drops money and equipment on them to keep the fighting going.
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The Zapatista movement needs to be stepped on, hard… and that other group needs to die, plain and simple…
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Concur with the Zapatistas-they need to be landed on with both feet, but...that other outfit is so crazy they make the prewar Sindero Luminoso in Peru look like saints.
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They want to see the afterlife so badly? The US Armed Forces can help them rush their trip.
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As long as they fight the regime, the regime does not look at trying anything stupid to the United States.
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U.S.S. New Jersey (BB-62) during a postwar visit to Pearl Harbor, 1991:
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Photo: HMS Ark Royal and USS New Jersey at the SRF side of Subic Bay Naval Base. Circa 1988. HMS Ark Royal is part of the British, Australian and New Zealand Taskforce (BANAT) conducting operations in the Pacific.

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OOC: I’m not sure the RN could spare a carrier from the ongoing Third Battle of the Atlantic in 1988.
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OOC, but after the 1987 Battle of the Baltic Exits the Soviet surface fleet was not that a threat, also it sends a signal that the United Kingdom is committed to fight the Soviets Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime.Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:47 pm OOC: I’m not sure the RN could spare a carrier from the ongoing Third Battle of the Atlantic in 1988.
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Would it give the battle group crews a rest?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:07 pmOOC, but after the 1987 Battle of the Baltic Exits the Soviet surface fleet was not that a threat, also it sends a signal that the United Kingdom is committed to fight the Soviets Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime.Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:47 pm OOC: I’m not sure the RN could spare a carrier from the ongoing Third Battle of the Atlantic in 1988.
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Do not know, i saw this photo and bassed the Taskforce around it.
Photo: The British. Australian and New Zealand Taskforce (BANAT) consisting of HMAS Swan, HMAS Derwent, HMNZS Waikato, HMNZS Wellington, HMS Sirius, HMS Edinburgh, Behind is HMS Ark Royal and RFA Olwyn, Singapore, 1988.
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Must be late in the year, since it looks like both Waikato and Wellington have been refit with LW-08 radar.
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Normally that task force would be built around HMAS Melbourne, but by that point in the war, she was in desperate need of overhaul, refit, and repair… remember that she had been decommissioned before the war and was reactivated due to the outbreak of the war…
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OOC, so you where they on that created the OOB for New Zeeland, i used a old version on my forum i found on the Red Dawn Wiki, i hope it is okay that i posted it.Matryoshka wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:45 am
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Not the surface fleet, perhaps. But, there subs would still be very active. The Invincible class’ primary role was to lead an ASW group. By 1988 the RN only had four carriers (two Invincible & two Furious), plus the two ‘austerity’ LPH which could also act as escort carriers. IMVHO, sending one carrier to the Far East would overstretch the fleet and lead to times when only one carrier would be available for operations.Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:07 pmOOC, but after the 1987 Battle of the Baltic Exits the Soviet surface fleet was not that a threat, also it sends a signal that the United Kingdom is committed to fight the Soviets Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime.Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:47 pm OOC: I’m not sure the RN could spare a carrier from the ongoing Third Battle of the Atlantic in 1988.
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To bad, are two nice images, so we could not have Ark Royal escorting a British force to Hong Kong and then go back to the United Kingdom by the way of Hawaii, Panama Canal, do a strike against Mexico and then head back to the United Kingdom.Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:52 am
Not the surface fleet, perhaps. But, there subs would still be very active. The Invincible class’ primary role was to lead an ASW group. By 1988 the RN only had four carriers (two Invincible & two Furious), plus the two ‘austerity’ LPH which could also act as escort carriers. IMVHO, sending one carrier to the Far East would overstretch the fleet and lead to times when only one carrier would be available for operations.
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A SNAF Backfire loaded for an antishipping mission, 1986:
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The world's most costly target drone.
Wasn't the F-14 / Phoenix running around 40% against the Backfire at war's start and going up to 55% towards war's end?
Wasn't the F-14 / Phoenix running around 40% against the Backfire at war's start and going up to 55% towards war's end?
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Photo: After the Armistice, Royal Navy frigate HMS Rothesay escorts a Whiskey Class sub away from UK waters, October 1989.
