The Last War: Chapter 378.

[Rocket J Squrriel]

Looks like the biggest day in the air over the Central Front since D-Day. Either there's going to be a Turkey Shoot or there's something bad coming....taking out AWACS and J-STARS is a real possibility.

What's to say both can't happen? The Soviets get the AWACS and JSTARS, but the victory cost them large chunks of their top-line (Flanker/Fulcrum/etc.) assets.

What if they peeled off 10-20 MiG-31s with their R-33s from PVO? Have the other fighters blow open holes and each -31 fire 4 long range missiles at AWACS, JSTARS, Compass Calls, tankers.

[Bernard Woolley]

The R-37 (AA-13 Axehead) can be carried on the Su-35 'Flanker-E' of the VVS.

[Jotun]

Hm. Looks like we need SOMETHING to cause "The Pause"

[Bernard Woolley]

Shhhhhh!

[MFOM]

Wasn't there also an anti AWAC air to air version of the AS-17 developed at one time

[Bernard Woolley]

From Wiki (make of it what you will ):

An active/passive air-to-air version for use against slow-moving support aircraft, a so-called "AWACS killer", was announced at the 1992 Moscow air show with 200 km (110 nmi; 120 mi) range.[6] That would be less than the 300–400 kilometres (160–220 nmi; 190–250 mi) promised by the Vympel R-37 (AA-13 'Arrow') and Novator R-172 missiles, but a Kh-31 derivative could be carried by a wider range of aircraft. However this may have been mere propaganda; in 2004 the Tactical Missiles Corporation "emphatically denied" that it had ever worked on an air-to-air version of the Kh-31.[28] In 2005 rumours emerged of a Russian "AWACS-killer missile" based on the Kh-31A anti-shipping model, and of the Chinese adapting the YJ-91, derived from the Kh-31P, for the same purpose.[7] In 2017, a representative of the Mikoyan company claimed that an air-to-air variant of the Kh-31 was in development, intended to equip the MiG-35,[29] but this is not confirmed.

[MFOM]

Schrodinger's missle then

[drmarkbailey]

From Wiki (make of it what you will ):

An active/passive air-to-air version for use against slow-moving support aircraft, a so-called "AWACS killer", was announced at the 1992 Moscow air show with 200 km (110 nmi; 120 mi) range.[6] That would be less than the 300–400 kilometres (160–220 nmi; 190–250 mi) promised by the Vympel R-37 (AA-13 'Arrow') and Novator R-172 missiles, but a Kh-31 derivative could be carried by a wider range of aircraft. However this may have been mere propaganda; in 2004 the Tactical Missiles Corporation "emphatically denied" that it had ever worked on an air-to-air version of the Kh-31.[28] In 2005 rumours emerged of a Russian "AWACS-killer missile" based on the Kh-31A anti-shipping model, and of the Chinese adapting the YJ-91, derived from the Kh-31P, for the same purpose.[7] In 2017, a representative of the Mikoyan company claimed that an air-to-air variant of the Kh-31 was in development, intended to equip the MiG-35,[29] but this is not confirmed.

Such systems exist.

I am unsure of their operational existence in TLW in 2005 - but the miltech slowdown (except in the PRC) from the 'peace dividend' era from 1990 was such that it certainly cannot be ruled out!

Cheers: Mark

[Rocket J Squrriel]

Sounds like the oncoming air battle is going to be interesting. Very, very interesting. https://youtu.be/PNuPajn_ezg?feature=shared