Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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Micael
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Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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I wasn’t there myself as I’m down with some bug, but some from my Homeguard company was at a firing range yesterday doing some practice. In the middle of everything one of them suffered a sudden cardiac arrest. CPR started immediately, civilian emergency services and garrison security alerted. AED arrived in 6-7 minutes. Ambulance and medevac helicopter within 10 minutes. Patient was conscious when being airlifted to hospital. Not sure what the condition is now.

Bit more drama than you’d wish for, but excellent work from everyone involved from what I’ve heard.
Craiglxviii
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Fingers crossed for a full recovery, and a hospital stay replete with attractive nurses!
MikeKozlowski
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Re: Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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Micael wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:15 am I wasn’t there myself as I’m down with some bug, but some from my Homeguard company was at a firing range yesterday doing some practice. In the middle of everything one of them suffered a sudden cardiac arrest. CPR started immediately, civilian emergency services and garrison security alerted. AED arrived in 6-7 minutes. Ambulance and medevac helicopter within 10 minutes. Patient was conscious when being airlifted to hospital. Not sure what the condition is now.

Bit more drama than you’d wish for, but excellent work from everyone involved from what I’ve heard.
...If something like that has to happen, best that it happen among a group of well-trained and motivated people with the right gear. Hope all is well, and he's back on the line soonest.

Mike
Johnnie Lyle
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Re: Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:27 pm
Micael wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:15 am I wasn’t there myself as I’m down with some bug, but some from my Homeguard company was at a firing range yesterday doing some practice. In the middle of everything one of them suffered a sudden cardiac arrest. CPR started immediately, civilian emergency services and garrison security alerted. AED arrived in 6-7 minutes. Ambulance and medevac helicopter within 10 minutes. Patient was conscious when being airlifted to hospital. Not sure what the condition is now.

Bit more drama than you’d wish for, but excellent work from everyone involved from what I’ve heard.
...If something like that has to happen, best that it happen among a group of well-trained and motivated people with the right gear. Hope all is well, and he's back on the line soonest.

Mike
Amen to THAT!
Micael
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Re: Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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One thing that might be worth noting:

An instructor who was one of the people who performed the CPR, and who was the first to reach the collapsed individual, was initially hesitant as to whether he should start CPR as the person was sort of breathing. A registered nurse that was also present arrived a few seconds later and immediately identified the breathing as agonal respiration: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respiration .
This type of breathing is not effective in providing oxygen and indicates a cardiac event. So the nurse decided on immediate CPR. The instructor noted that if he’d been alone he might have waited another 30-60 seconds before beginning CPR due to this agonal breathing which made it difficult for him to be certain that it was a cardiac arrest (first one he’d witnessed.)

So, for those interested in knowing CPR, make sure you know what agonal respiration is as well, and how it appears, so that you can begin CPR as early as possible.

This clip from Bondi Rescue shows a drowing victim which exhibits agonal respiration:
https://youtu.be/88uCTEmuuGI?si=wCo9b-y0Pqix4u2K
MikeKozlowski
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Re: Bit of a drama on the range yesterday

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Micael wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:43 pm One thing that might be worth noting:

An instructor who was one of the people who performed the CPR, and who was the first to reach the collapsed individual, was initially hesitant as to whether he should start CPR as the person was sort of breathing. A registered nurse that was also present arrived a few seconds later and immediately identified the breathing as agonal respiration: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respiration .
This type of breathing is not effective in providing oxygen and indicates a cardiac event. So the nurse decided on immediate CPR. The instructor noted that if he’d been alone he might have waited another 30-60 seconds before beginning CPR due to this agonal breathing which made it difficult for him to be certain that it was a cardiac arrest (first one he’d witnessed.)

So, for those interested in knowing CPR, make sure you know what agonal respiration is as well, and how it appears, so that you can begin CPR as early as possible.

This clip from Bondi Rescue shows a drowing victim which exhibits agonal respiration:
https://youtu.be/88uCTEmuuGI?si=wCo9b-y0Pqix4u2K
Micael,

I've taken USAF and ARC CPR training easily dozen times, and never once heard that expression. Glad to know I know it now!

Mike
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