One think Star Trek got right

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Complete with unofficial but very real “Sanctuary Districts” to ensure the proles stay in their places and don’t muck things up for the rich people, especially rich “liberal” Democrats.
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This will be everywhere unless it is stopped.
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Zen9 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:49 pm This will be everywhere unless it is stopped.
It won't until it the people that don't see it as a problem, sees it as a problem that needs fixing, not pushed onto someone else.
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We're headed for the Heinlein dystopia*. The rich live in walled enclaves with guarded walls, there are few upper middle class, the middle class and working poor get robbed at will, and the underclass runs the lower income areas.

Wait, we're already mostly there.

*William Gibson stole the idea, filed off the serial numbers, and claimed it as his own.
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Its not just Heinlein. There's LOTS of authors out there who filed the serial numbers off and repackaged the general idea.

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jemhouston wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:42 pm
Zen9 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:49 pm This will be everywhere unless it is stopped.
It won't until it the people that don't see it as a problem, sees it as a problem that needs fixing, not pushed onto someone else.
They see it as a problem that needs fixing.

They don’t understand that their fixes, and other policies they support and enact, are creating and exacerbating the problem.
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Belushi TD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:21 pm Its not just Heinlein. There's LOTS of authors out there who filed the serial numbers off and repackaged the general idea.

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It's a quote from Glory Road:
[quote="Heinlein, Glory Road] ' No, Will got it from me, milord love. That's the way with writers; they'll steal anything, file off the serial numbers, and claim it for their own." [/quote]

To the best of my knowledge, Heinlein was one of the first to describe that sort of dystopia in science fiction, with many of his works from the 50's. There may have been others earlier or at the same time. From then, the idea did become commonplace.
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