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THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:02 am
by jemhouston
From Instapundit
THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN: A friend writes:
The U.S.S. Robert A. Heinlein Campaign!
We want the new Secretary of the Navy – John Phelan — to name a future DDG-51 Flight III
destroyer for Robert A. Heinlein.
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It is the prerogative of the Secretary of the Navy to name Navy vessels. Navy policy is to name destroyers for deceased members of the Navy.
We want the new Secretary of the Navy – John Phelan — to name a future DDG-51 Flight III destroyer for Robert A. Heinlein.
This would happen if lots of people write asking him to name a future Arleigh
Burke-class destroyer for Heinlein.
Phelan’s address is:
The Honorable John Phelan
Secretary of the Navy
Room 4E686
Defense Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20301
More information may be found at the Campaign website.
www.USSRobertAHeinlein.com.
Good idea. Endorsed.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:56 pm
by Nightwatch2
While the science fiction nurd in me applauds the idea, the Old Navy in me thinks about the many good sailors and Marines who were KIA with citations for heroism that such ships are normally named for.
Yes, acknowledging the excursions in recent years for “heroes of political correctness” that should never have happened.
So I have mixed feelings about this.
How about a science research ship?
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:22 pm
by Lordroel
I still waiting when USS William J. Clinton (CVN-82) and USS George W. Bush (CVN-83) are going to be renamed, ore is CVN going to be named the USS Donald J Trump and they do not change the name as the next president can change the names again.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:03 pm
by jemhouston
Lordroel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:22 pm
I still waiting when USS William J. Clinton (CVN-82) and USS George W. Bush (CVN-83) are going to be renamed, ore is CVN going to be named the USS Donald J Trump and they do not change the name as the next president can change the names again.
I certainly hope so. Just because you're President doesn't mean you merit having a ship named for you.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:10 am
by Nightwatch2
jemhouston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:03 pm
Lordroel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:22 pm
I still waiting when USS William J. Clinton (CVN-82) and USS George W. Bush (CVN-83) are going to be renamed, ore is CVN going to be named the USS Donald J Trump and they do not change the name as the next president can change the names again.
I certainly hope so. Just because you're President doesn't mean you merit having a ship named for you.
I’ve always thought naming carriers after Presidents was a not so great idea. Or any political figure.
Although if recovering state legislators were included…..
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:45 am
by jemhouston
One way to get around that is ban naming a ship until 25 years after their death.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:40 am
by Johnnie Lyle
Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:10 am
jemhouston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:03 pm
Lordroel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:22 pm
I still waiting when USS William J. Clinton (CVN-82) and USS George W. Bush (CVN-83) are going to be renamed, ore is CVN going to be named the USS Donald J Trump and they do not change the name as the next president can change the names again.
I certainly hope so. Just because you're President doesn't mean you merit having a ship named for you.
I’ve always thought naming carriers after Presidents was a not so great idea. Or any political figure.
Although if recovering state legislators were included…..
I liked naming the boomers after preferably dead key national figures, mostly politicians. A boomer with a passle of nukes is about the only thing that approaches the destructive capacity of a politician.
On the flip side, I think we have all seen some objectively stupid names become hallowed due to the sacrifices made by the people involved. So, as long as we keep having good sailors, we will have good ships, even if the people the ships originally commemorated didn’t deserve the honor.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:04 am
by Johnnie Lyle
Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:56 pm
While the science fiction nurd in me applauds the idea, the Old Navy in me thinks about the many good sailors and Marines who were KIA with citations for heroism that such ships are normally named for.
Yes, acknowledging the excursions in recent years for “heroes of political correctness” that should never have happened.
So I have mixed feelings about this.
How about a science research ship?
Heinlein would probably decline the honor of a DDG, judging his naval service less important than his work lighting the fire of humanity in space.
Stuart had it right.
Heinlein Station.
Though I would prefer we name the first commercial station in orbit over a Lagrange one, and that we maintain that name right up to the gigantic Spacedocks of Star Trek.
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:28 pm
by Belushi TD
Agreed.
Heinlein Station. Lets get started on that.
Belushi TD
Re: THE U.S.S. ROBERT HEINLEIN:
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:42 pm
by Nightwatch2
Belushi TD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:28 pm
Agreed.
Heinlein Station. Lets get started on that.
Belushi TD
Too late to be first. Enterprise Station is on the way already