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Long and short stories from the 1984 movie
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Matt Wiser wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:15 am Two other projects that were uncovered:

Project 1199: The Anchar-class DDGNs: A class of nuclear-powered destroyers designed for air defense of their planned CVNs. Lead ship laid down 1987 at Admiralty Yard, Leningrad, second unit 1988 at same yard. Both cancelled with outbreak of Civil War and material broken up on the slipways. Along with the fifth Kirov-class ship...

Project 11780: Kherson-class LHAs: Two LHA-type ships, similar in concept to the USN's Tarawa class. Ordered from the 61 Kommuna Yard in Nikolayev, but never laid down. These would've been of considerable value, especially in the Alaska invasion, and as ASW Helicopter carriers on the convoy runs. Lead unit to have been named Kherson.
Thank goodness they went nowhere… nuclear-powered destroyers seems to be a bit much, don’t you think?
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Just remember that in the 1950s and '60s, the Navy had plans for nuclear-powered destroyers, but the expense-and the Vietnam War-put paid to that idea.

There's going to be folks now putting out books going into detail on Soviet "Wonder Weapons" or "Wunderfaffe" that could've made the war a lot more difficult at the very least, you can bet on that.
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Indeed.
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I can always use a good laugh
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Like the ‘ceramic’ tank I’ve heard about. Never mind that it’s impossible to build a tank totally out of ceramics, or that ceramic is good as armour on its own! :D


OOC: I did actually have a discussion with someone on another site who claimed it existed and would also not accept that it was impractical for many, many reasons. They also claimed that the RAF seriously wanted to buy Mig-29s! :lol:
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Whoever was passing that rumor around had to be smoking something weird…
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Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:47 am Just remember that in the 1950s and '60s, the Navy had plans for nuclear-powered destroyers, but the expense-and the Vietnam War-put paid to that idea.

There's going to be folks now putting out books going into detail on Soviet "Wonder Weapons" or "Wunderfaffe" that could've made the war a lot more difficult at the very least, you can bet on that.
Weren't Bainbrige, Truxtun, the California-class and the Virginia-class all originally designated destroyer leaders?
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clancyphile wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:25 pm
Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:47 am Just remember that in the 1950s and '60s, the Navy had plans for nuclear-powered destroyers, but the expense-and the Vietnam War-put paid to that idea.

There's going to be folks now putting out books going into detail on Soviet "Wonder Weapons" or "Wunderfaffe" that could've made the war a lot more difficult at the very least, you can bet on that.
Weren't Bainbrige, Truxtun, the California-class and the Virginia-class all originally designated destroyer leaders?
Yup.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:32 pm
clancyphile wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:25 pm
Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:47 am Just remember that in the 1950s and '60s, the Navy had plans for nuclear-powered destroyers, but the expense-and the Vietnam War-put paid to that idea.

There's going to be folks now putting out books going into detail on Soviet "Wonder Weapons" or "Wunderfaffe" that could've made the war a lot more difficult at the very least, you can bet on that.
Weren't Bainbrige, Truxtun, the California-class and the Virginia-class all originally designated destroyer leaders?
Yup.
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How’s your daughter-in-law with the Colorado State police doing after the incident at Christmas?
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Wolfman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:50 pm How’s your daughter-in-law with the Colorado State police doing after the incident at Christmas?
Too many key people who need to sign off on the investigation are out, so she's on extended admin leave. She's got all of her mandatory training completed for the year. :lol:
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Has the Pocatello PD slapped the cuffs on that miscreant yet?
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Wolfman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:03 pm Has the Pocatello PD slapped the cuffs on that miscreant yet?
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Poohbah wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:59 pm
Wolfman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:50 pm How’s your daughter-in-law with the Colorado State police doing after the incident at Christmas?
Too many key people who need to sign off on the investigation are out, so she's on extended admin leave. She's got all of her mandatory training completed for the year. :lol:
One good thing about it.
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Poohbah wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:59 pm
Wolfman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:50 pm How’s your daughter-in-law with the Colorado State police doing after the incident at Christmas?
Too many key people who need to sign off on the investigation are out, so she's on extended admin leave. She's got all of her mandatory training completed for the year. :lol:
What about all the policy that needs to be written?
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For what it's worth, Cindy was back on shift last Wednesday, and had a pretty quiet shift--a couple of minor traffic collisions, the usual panoply of moving violations and fix-it tickets, etc.

But one of her cow-orkers had his body cam footage go viral.

A suspect was running from the cops Thursday afternoon, and Trooper Dudley Do-Right rolls up just in time to see the guy try to run down a thirty-foot set of stairs on a hillside, right towards where ol' Dudley was waiting.

(No, that's his nickname; he's a dashingly handsome lad who is also, by all accounts, an absolute gentleman on and off the job.)

The stairs were icy.

Suspect goes ass over teakettle and bounces down the stairs. Took the starch right out of him, he's in the hospital with both legs in traction, fractured clavicle, et cetera, and so on, and so forth.

And then the Interwebz got ahold of it, slowed it down, and sync'd it to Eddie Murphy's classic Aunt Bunny falling down the stairs routine.

Roberta told me I'm going straight to Hell for laughing at that video, and would I be so kind as to (a) save her a seat on the bus, and (b) please bring chips and dip?
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And Cindy's shootee had his arraignment today.

Grand (and, given that it was a Ferrari 812, it was extremely grand) theft auto, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon x2, one count of special circumstances in that said assault was against a sworn law enforcement officer engaged in the performance of official duties, resisting arrest, prohibited person in possession of a firearm, felony bail jumping, multiple counts of failure to appear, and carrying false identification documents.

Pled not guilty to all counts, trial should begin within 60 days.
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Do they have enough to nail his hide to the wall at trial?
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Wolfman wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:31 am Do they have enough to nail his hide to the wall at trial?
It's pretty cut and dried--he's there on security and video cameras, et cetera, and the police work was by the book.

Word is the DA is not in the mood to do a plea bargain.
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Now what about the other problem, what’s going on with that guy?
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