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Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:54 pm
by Micael
But an interesting idea anyway.
This photo is from the Karlsborg fortress museum.
It is a machine gun model 1875 designed by the Swedish engineer Palmkrantz. It had ten barrels that would fire ten round bursts (12 mm), you had magazines for the barrels and a handle that you pushed forward to load cartridges into the barrels then you’d pull it back to eject the empty casings.
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 8:12 pm
by Johnnie Lyle
Micael wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:54 pm
But an interesting idea anyway.
This photo is from the Karlsborg fortress museum.
It is a machine gun model 1875 designed by the Swedish engineer Palmkrantz. It had ten barrels that would fire ten round bursts (12 mm), you had magazines for the barrels and a handle that you pushed forward to load cartridges into the barrels then you’d pull it back to eject the empty casings.
It looks like some of the Plains Wars Gatlings, or the Nordenfeldt and Gardner guns in the Sudan.
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 9:01 pm
by Kunkmiester
So ten straight pull bolt action rifles strapped together.
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 7:32 am
by Craiglxviii
Very much Nordenfelt-y
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:04 am
by Micael
Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:32 am
Very much Nordenfelt-y
There’s a reason for that.
The weapon was designed by a Swedish engineer, Helge Palmcrantz. He created a mechanism to load and fire a multiple barreled gun by simply moving a single lever backwards and forwards. It was patented in 1873.
Production of the weapon was funded by a Swedish steel producer and banker (later weapons maker) named Thorsten Nordenfelt, who was working in London. The name of the weapon was changed to the Nordenfelt gun.
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:56 am
by Craiglxviii
Micael wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 8:04 am
Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:32 am
Very much Nordenfelt-y
There’s a reason for that.
The weapon was designed by a Swedish engineer, Helge Palmcrantz. He created a mechanism to load and fire a multiple barreled gun by simply moving a single lever backwards and forwards. It was patented in 1873.
Production of the weapon was funded by a Swedish steel producer and banker (later weapons maker) named Thorsten Nordenfelt, who was working in London. The name of the weapon was changed to the Nordenfelt gun.
That’d do it.
As I heard, the forwards & backwards action of the Nordenfelt was harder work for the gunner than the rotary crank of the Gatling design. I know the RN used both in 1” in the fighting tops of late Victorian ships.
Re: Before machine gun designs had quite been perfected
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 6:06 pm
by Micael
Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 8:56 am
Micael wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 8:04 am
Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:32 am
Very much Nordenfelt-y
There’s a reason for that.
The weapon was designed by a Swedish engineer, Helge Palmcrantz. He created a mechanism to load and fire a multiple barreled gun by simply moving a single lever backwards and forwards. It was patented in 1873.
Production of the weapon was funded by a Swedish steel producer and banker (later weapons maker) named Thorsten Nordenfelt, who was working in London. The name of the weapon was changed to the Nordenfelt gun.
That’d do it.
As I heard, the forwards & backwards action of the Nordenfelt was harder work for the gunner than the rotary crank of the Gatling design. I know the RN used both in 1” in the fighting tops of late Victorian ships.
I can imagine. The design is inferior to the Gatling and Maxim ones, though it might not have been obvious at the time before more experience had been gained. At one point, observing how increasingly improbably guns started popping up in the war in Ukraine, I almost thought one of these would pop up as well.