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Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:54 pm
by David Newton
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-64822217
There's been a bit of an oopsie on the M5 near Bristol today.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:48 pm
by gtg947h
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:38 pm
by Johnnie Lyle
That took some skill . . .
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:20 am
by buckeyecapsfan19
Lucky he didn't take down the gantry when he whacked it.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:59 am
by gral
Are there traffic cameras near that gantry? Because tilting up the tipper is a way of hiding the truck's license plate. Some 10 years ago, a guy took down an elevated walkway doing that in Rio(truck circulation was forbidden on that road at that hour). 1 dead, 3 wounded. That driver deserved to hang - he went in knowingly(thus the tilted-up tipper) and someone died because of him.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:13 am
by Craiglxviii
Seen this happen before. Tilting the bed should sound an annunciator and flash a warning lamp in the cab… unless the tilt microswitch has gone U/S and the driver just wired it open or closed as necessary to stay quiet. Not that that ever happens of course.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:29 pm
by David Newton
Simple fix for people messing with the wiring of the microswitch for the bed tilt warning: if the microswitch goes out of service then the bed will return to horizontal but then gets locked in place. Logic for that? It's a safety-critical feature which should fail safe (hence the bed returning to the horizontal) and fiddling with it should be detected and punished very harshly.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:02 pm
by Craiglxviii
David Newton wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:29 pm
Simple fix for people messing with the wiring of the microswitch for the bed tilt warning: if the microswitch goes out of service then the bed will return to horizontal but then gets locked in place. Logic for that? It's a safety-critical feature which should fail safe (hence the bed returning to the horizontal) and fiddling with it should be detected and punished very harshly.
Oh agree completely old boy, but these are wagon operators we’re dealing with here; not necessarily the most scrupulous.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:08 pm
by Johnnie Lyle
Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:02 pm
David Newton wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:29 pm
Simple fix for people messing with the wiring of the microswitch for the bed tilt warning: if the microswitch goes out of service then the bed will return to horizontal but then gets locked in place. Logic for that? It's a safety-critical feature which should fail safe (hence the bed returning to the horizontal) and fiddling with it should be detected and punished very harshly.
Oh agree completely old boy, but these are wagon operators we’re dealing with here; not necessarily the most scrupulous.
That’s a lot more than a little tilt.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:29 pm
by JBG
That may be a case of the top of the bed remaining stationary and the truck proceeding for a little bit!
The last similar incident here was in entering a tunnel. Needless to say, the overheard services were trashed...
Jonathan
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:47 am
by kdahm
Too common to be really notable. There are legions of YouTube videos with dump beds hitting obstructions. Note that pretty much all of the beds are empty.
Considering that this category of truck also gives the rest of the truckers a bad name for safety violations, requiring an alarm or switch for a tilted bed is mostly a feel good measure. Many of them also need to drive when unloading, so a simple switch and alarm would be more annoying than useful.
As an example, about every other time I drive more than 20 minutes at night in the city, I see at least one car without their lights on. A simple fix, but people don't actually set them to 'auto'.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:01 am
by Poohbah
kdahm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:47 am
Too common to be really notable. There are legions of YouTube videos with dump beds hitting obstructions. Note that pretty much all of the beds are empty.
Considering that this category of truck also gives the rest of the truckers a bad name for safety violations, requiring an alarm or switch for a tilted bed is mostly a feel good measure. Many of them also need to drive when unloading, so a simple switch and alarm would be more annoying than useful.
What about an alarm that looks at bed angle plus speed? Exceed a reasonable unloading speed with the bed up, the alarm goes off.
Re: Tipping point reached on the M5
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:32 am
by JBG