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And it looks like they're doing the right thing. Treating the ship correctly.clancyphile wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:26 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eLOZ15VvI0
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Was watching one of Drachinifels' Drydock episodes the other night, and he was asked about how certain ships' names came to be legendary. His example was Enterprise - there had been six ships with that name in the USN before CV-6 was commissioned, and although they served well and did their jobs, there was nothing memorable about them. But CV-6's record was such that the previous ships - and the later ones - have been seen in an absolutely glorious light - see also Dreadnaught, of which there have been at least twelve, with a thirteenth on the way, but the eleventh is the one everybody remembers, and gave the others an aura of legend.David Newton wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 9:52 amAnd it looks like they're doing the right thing. Treating the ship correctly.clancyphile wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:26 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eLOZ15VvI0
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Too big and expensive and complicated to even contemplate as a museum. Stop promoting any delusions about that. Thus it needs disposing of in some other way. Scrapping it is one of those possible other ways.
As is so often the case you let preconceptions and prejudice cloud your thoughts far too much. You therefore come to prima facie incorrect conclusions.
The supporters of the SS United States were guilty of that delusion I'm afraid. If, like the RMS Queen Mary, they had made a museum out of her right when taken out of service it might have been viable.David Newton wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 9:52 amAnd it looks like they're doing the right thing. Treating the ship correctly.clancyphile wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:26 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eLOZ15VvI0
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Too big and expensive and complicated to even contemplate as a museum. Stop promoting any delusions about that. Thus it needs disposing of in some other way. Scrapping it is one of those possible other ways.
As is so often the case you let preconceptions and prejudice cloud your thoughts far too much. You therefore come to prima facie incorrect conclusions.
I had thought that the place for her to go would be off Turner Joy Road at the Naval Academy.MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:46 pm Was watching one of Drachinifels' Drydock episodes the other night, and he was asked about how certain ships' names came to be legendary. His example was Enterprise - there had been six ships with that name in the USN before CV-6 was commissioned, and although they served well and did their jobs, there was nothing memorable about them. But CV-6's record was such that the previous ships - and the later ones - have been seen in an absolutely glorious light - see also Dreadnaught, of which there have been at least twelve, with a thirteenth on the way, but the eleventh is the one everybody remembers, and gave the others an aura of legend.
When you add to the Legend the sad facts around the failure to preserve CV-6, it's going to be a challenge for anyone with a sense of history to simply accept that we're going to let another one go....but there is no way around it. Even if you could handwave away the issues surrounding her reactors, Enterprise is just too damned big to go anywhere as a museum and far too expensive to maintain as such. But the legend is is always going to stand front and center, and that's where we are.
Mike
There is no way in hell to get her up there safely. And that's still a huge chunk of money for upkeep.clancyphile wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 2:26 amI had thought that the place for her to go would be off Turner Joy Road at the Naval Academy.MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 11:46 pm Was watching one of Drachinifels' Drydock episodes the other night, and he was asked about how certain ships' names came to be legendary. His example was Enterprise - there had been six ships with that name in the USN before CV-6 was commissioned, and although they served well and did their jobs, there was nothing memorable about them. But CV-6's record was such that the previous ships - and the later ones - have been seen in an absolutely glorious light - see also Dreadnaught, of which there have been at least twelve, with a thirteenth on the way, but the eleventh is the one everybody remembers, and gave the others an aura of legend.
When you add to the Legend the sad facts around the failure to preserve CV-6, it's going to be a challenge for anyone with a sense of history to simply accept that we're going to let another one go....but there is no way around it. Even if you could handwave away the issues surrounding her reactors, Enterprise is just too damned big to go anywhere as a museum and far too expensive to maintain as such. But the legend is is always going to stand front and center, and that's where we are.
Mike