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Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:47 pm
by jemhouston
I'm not flying

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-item ... ol-control


Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

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The turning tool as found in front of the low-pressure compressor outlet guide vanes

An A380 operated multiple flights with a tool inside one of its engines, after maintenance engineers did not commence the lost tool procedure prior to the aircraft being released to service, an ATSB investigation report details.

The 1.25 m long nylon tool, used to turn the engine’s intermediate‑pressure compressor during borescope inspections, was found wedged against the low-pressure compressor outlet guide vanes during a scheduled maintenance check at Los Angeles on 1 January 2024.

It was determined that that the tool had been left in the engine during previous scheduled maintenance in Los Angeles on 6 December 2023.

Between the two maintenance checks, the Qantas aircraft had flown 34 cycles, totalling 294 hours, with the tool in the engine. Although the tool was found to have been deformed by high energy airflow, there was no damage observed to the engine itself.

“The ATSB investigation found that maintenance engineers did not notice the tool had been left in the engine’s low-pressure compressor case when conducting checks for foreign objects at the completion of the borescope inspection task,” ATSB Chief Commissioner Angus Mitchell said.

“Further, maintenance engineers did not commence the lost tool procedure once the tool had been identified as missing, and the certifying engineer released the aircraft for service with the tool unaccounted for.”

After the tool was discovered, Qantas Engineering immediately briefed staff on the importance of ensuring all tooling is returned and actioned by tool store personnel.

The operator also completed an internal investigation, which resulted in an internal safety directive regarding complying with company tool control requirements.

“Foreign object debris and damage can pose a significant threat to the safe operation of aircraft, which is why regulations, procedures and training are in place to limit the risk of foreign object damage, especially from introduced objects during maintenance,” Mr Mitchell noted.

“Correctly applying tool control is fundamental to mitigating against any human errors that may arise.”

Read the final report: Foreign object debris event involving Airbus A380, VH-OQI, at Los Angeles International Airport, United States, on 1 January 2024
Publication Date
14/11/2024


Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:36 pm
by rtoldman
could this have been picked up off the ground?


The aluminum ladder left in the test cell one day at GE was completely ingested...

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:16 am
by Nik_SpeakerToCats
Snark #1:
At least it wasn't ubiquitous 10 mm box-spanner...
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Snark #2:
I'm confident the term 'BOEING !!!' was oft repeated during those urgent safety briefings...
/

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:26 am
by Pdf27
rtoldman wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:36 pmcould this have been picked up off the ground?

The aluminum ladder left in the test cell one day at GE was completely ingested...
Give the tool type and where it is, no. Red arrow points to the location it was found in, there just isn't a practical way to get a tool in there with the engine turning and have it remain as intact as it was found.
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Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:47 pm
by Nik_SpeakerToCats
One of my neighbours is a senior 'Staff Nurse', has conveyed several 'educational' tales.

One story concerns a theatre nurse whose task, per that famous Falklands Mission reporter, was to wield a check-list, meticulously count them out, then count them in again.

Apparently, just as a surgeon was 'closing up', this normally unflappable lady had hysterics.

Her tray now held an extra, unlisted item...

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:57 pm
by Nightwatch2
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:47 pm One of my neighbours is a senior 'Staff Nurse', has conveyed several 'educational' tales.

One story concerns a theatre nurse whose task, per that famous Falklands Mission reporter, was to wield a check-list, meticulously count them out, then count them in again.

Apparently, just as a surgeon was 'closing up', this normally unflappable lady had hysterics.

Her tray now held an extra, unlisted item...
I’ll bet that was entertaining!

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:30 pm
by Belushi TD
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:16 am Snark #1:
At least it wasn't ubiquitous 10 mm box-spanner...
/
Snark #2:
I'm confident the term 'BOEING !!!' was oft repeated during those urgent safety briefings...
/
Snark #3:
Now we know where the 10 mm wrenches disappear to when they go missing.

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:37 pm
by kdahm
Belushi TD wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:30 pm
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:16 am Snark #1:
At least it wasn't ubiquitous 10 mm box-spanner...
/
Snark #2:
I'm confident the term 'BOEING !!!' was oft repeated during those urgent safety briefings...
/
Snark #3:
Now we know where the 10 mm wrenches disappear to when they go missing.
The 10mm wrenches are easy to find. Usually only takes a couple of minutes if they're not in the assigned spot. Its the bloody 10mm 1/4 drive sockets that go wandering and can't be found.

Which is why I bought three standard and two deep socket, so I can usually get one while the others wander back in.

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:53 pm
by gtg947h
kdahm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:37 pm The 10mm wrenches are easy to find. Usually only takes a couple of minutes if they're not in the assigned spot. Its the bloody 10mm 1/4 drive sockets that go wandering and can't be found.

Which is why I bought three standard and two deep socket, so I can usually get one while the others wander back in.
I've found the 3/8in, 1/4 drive ones like to grow legs, too (they're used on the AN3 bolts and corresponding nuts so common on light airplanes). I know, I"m one of the weirdos still working on stuff that uses inch-based fasteners :lol:

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:30 pm
by Belushi TD
7/16th and 9/16th are the ones that go missing from my toolbox at work. Or, at least they did before I changed jobs.

Last time I was at home depot with the company credit card, I bought a half dozen of each, and stashed them in the glove boxes of all the company vehicles. Only had to use two before I quit.

Belushi TD

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:53 pm
by Craiglxviii
kdahm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:37 pm
Belushi TD wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:30 pm
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:16 am Snark #1:
At least it wasn't ubiquitous 10 mm box-spanner...
/
Snark #2:
I'm confident the term 'BOEING !!!' was oft repeated during those urgent safety briefings...
/
Snark #3:
Now we know where the 10 mm wrenches disappear to when they go missing.
The 10mm wrenches are easy to find. Usually only takes a couple of minutes if they're not in the assigned spot. Its the bloody 10mm 1/4 drive sockets that go wandering and can't be found.

Which is why I bought three standard and two deep socket, so I can usually get one while the others wander back in.
And 17mm 3/4” sockets, exactly as standard for most German cars’ wheel bolts.

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:33 am
by Marko Dash
kdahm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:37 pm
Belushi TD wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:30 pm
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:16 am Snark #1:
At least it wasn't ubiquitous 10 mm box-spanner...
/
Snark #2:
I'm confident the term 'BOEING !!!' was oft repeated during those urgent safety briefings...
/
Snark #3:
Now we know where the 10 mm wrenches disappear to when they go missing.
The 10mm wrenches are easy to find. Usually only takes a couple of minutes if they're not in the assigned spot. Its the bloody 10mm 1/4 drive sockets that go wandering and can't be found.

Which is why I bought three standard and two deep socket, so I can usually get one while the others wander back in.
this is why you get a few 1cm sockets instead, the universe has to pause a blink a bit so they don't wander off

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:47 am
by Poohbah
We had a missing tool report signed off as "tool stolen" at my last duty station, and I knew it was BS.

Well, I mailed the report to COMNAVAIRPAC as I was processing out, along with a lot of other stuff outlining how they were breaking lots of regulations, and it got there after I was a civilian.

My sources tell me the AIRPAC inspection team found the missing tool under the floorboards, wedged in some cables, and about two inches from a bellcrank.

Heads rolled.

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:55 am
by jemhouston
Poohbah wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:47 am We had a missing tool report signed off as "tool stolen" at my last duty station, and I knew it was BS.

Well, I mailed the report to COMNAVAIRPAC as I was processing out, along with a lot of other stuff outlining how they were breaking lots of regulations, and it got there after I was a civilian.

My sources tell me the AIRPAC inspection team found the missing tool under the floorboards, wedged in some cables, and about two inches from a bellcrank.

Heads rolled.
Did enough roll?

Re: Tool left in A380 engine after maintenance inspection highlights importance of tool control

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:24 pm
by Poohbah
jemhouston wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:55 am
Poohbah wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:47 am We had a missing tool report signed off as "tool stolen" at my last duty station, and I knew it was BS.

Well, I mailed the report to COMNAVAIRPAC as I was processing out, along with a lot of other stuff outlining how they were breaking lots of regulations, and it got there after I was a civilian.

My sources tell me the AIRPAC inspection team found the missing tool under the floorboards, wedged in some cables, and about two inches from a bellcrank.

Heads rolled.
Did enough roll?
Well, they never stuffed a bird until the airframes were retired, so maybe.