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An Art Deco Megayacht

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Often I find that the super/megayachts out there are fairly tacky in their styling, speced by some oligarch or middle eastern prince to an excess of gold and marble. This one however is all about Art Deco, and that I do like. The interior is breathtaking at times:
https://youtu.be/CKxq8MLYcRc
Now all I need to do is find myself a few hundred million to be able to buy and operate it…
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If I ever get a billion or so, and decide that I'm mad enough to want a megayacht, the first design consideration is that it's built on the hull and machinery of a Coast Guard cutter. I don't care if it's not the fastest, not the sleekest looking, and has a slightly bumpy ride in some sea states.

What I want is a hull that can stay shiny side up and screws side down when the whales are losing their lunch in the waves. I want a power plant that decides to give up only after the Horns of Jericho are exhausted. I want to be able to get from A to B safely, and I don't want to compromise on the safely part.

That is a nice looking yacht, though.
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John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
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jemhouston wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 am John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:25 am
jemhouston wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 am John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
Are you sure? They could have put a structure over them.
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kdahm wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:53 pm If I ever get a billion or so, and decide that I'm mad enough to want a megayacht, the first design consideration is that it's built on the hull and machinery of a Coast Guard cutter. I don't care if it's not the fastest, not the sleekest looking, and has a slightly bumpy ride in some sea states.

What I want is a hull that can stay shiny side up and screws side down when the whales are losing their lunch in the waves. I want a power plant that decides to give up only after the Horns of Jericho are exhausted. I want to be able to get from A to B safely, and I don't want to compromise on the safely part.

That is a nice looking yacht, though.
At this megayacht size, they usually tend to be able to take essentially anything that the sea can throw at them. All commericial specs and built to classification societies approval etc. This one is built by Lürssen in Germany which is a builder regarded very well in terms of engineering and such. There are other builders out there that may be producing ships of more dubious quality once you start looking closely though.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:25 am
jemhouston wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 am John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
The Piet Hein, became M/Y Yas.
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Micael wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:45 am
kdahm wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:53 pm If I ever get a billion or so, and decide that I'm mad enough to want a megayacht, the first design consideration is that it's built on the hull and machinery of a Coast Guard cutter. I don't care if it's not the fastest, not the sleekest looking, and has a slightly bumpy ride in some sea states.

What I want is a hull that can stay shiny side up and screws side down when the whales are losing their lunch in the waves. I want a power plant that decides to give up only after the Horns of Jericho are exhausted. I want to be able to get from A to B safely, and I don't want to compromise on the safely part.

That is a nice looking yacht, though.
At this megayacht size, they usually tend to be able to take essentially anything that the sea can throw at them. All commericial specs and built to classification societies approval etc. This one is built by Lürssen in Germany which is a builder regarded very well in terms of engineering and such. There are other builders out there that may be producing ships of more dubious quality once you start looking closely though.
Most superyachts (megayacht is what the rest of the world calls superyachts) are built in Germany, Holland and Italy. Something like 70-75% of them come out of the same few yards. Lurssen are very well respected indeed.

Quite honestly, there are no poorly-built ones. At this price point (£1,000,000 per metre of hull up) there is enough very well funded and established competition that every yard keeps every other one honest. Besides, the owners don’t want cheap, they want utter luxury.

Remind me to tell you about having to source the correct grade of goose feathers to have deckhead light bezels polished with for Lady Gu… no joke!
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When I look at these super yachts, and even agreeing that the videos are staged productions, I always wonder how well they would handle a winter North Atlantic crossing. Something like a sea state of 4 or 5, to start with. I'm sure a lot of the stuff can be put away, but there still a lot of breakable things that look like they can slide around.

Of course, the professional crews are specifically supposed to avoid those things, but then again private jets also never crash in storms because the clients just want to get there, right.
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Craiglxviii wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:55 pm
Micael wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:45 am
kdahm wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:53 pm If I ever get a billion or so, and decide that I'm mad enough to want a megayacht, the first design consideration is that it's built on the hull and machinery of a Coast Guard cutter. I don't care if it's not the fastest, not the sleekest looking, and has a slightly bumpy ride in some sea states.

What I want is a hull that can stay shiny side up and screws side down when the whales are losing their lunch in the waves. I want a power plant that decides to give up only after the Horns of Jericho are exhausted. I want to be able to get from A to B safely, and I don't want to compromise on the safely part.

That is a nice looking yacht, though.
At this megayacht size, they usually tend to be able to take essentially anything that the sea can throw at them. All commericial specs and built to classification societies approval etc. This one is built by Lürssen in Germany which is a builder regarded very well in terms of engineering and such. There are other builders out there that may be producing ships of more dubious quality once you start looking closely though.
Most superyachts (megayacht is what the rest of the world calls superyachts) are built in Germany, Holland and Italy. Something like 70-75% of them come out of the same few yards. Lurssen are very well respected indeed.

Quite honestly, there are no poorly-built ones. At this price point (£1,000,000 per metre of hull up) there is enough very well funded and established competition that every yard keeps every other one honest. Besides, the owners don’t want cheap, they want utter luxury.

Remind me to tell you about having to source the correct grade of goose feathers to have deckhead light bezels polished with for Lady Gu… no joke!
One builder I would stay clear of is Perini Navi. When the Bayesian sank in August, built by them, they tried to pin it all on the crew, without any evidence. The snippets that have leaked from the investigation since is seemingly corroborating the crew members claims, and perhaps points to something wrong with the design of the yacht in combination with a freak weather event. The crew community is very upset with Perini Navi as a result, some rumored to refuse to work on yachts built by them anymore.
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kdahm wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:52 pm When I look at these super yachts, and even agreeing that the videos are staged productions, I always wonder how well they would handle a winter North Atlantic crossing. Something like a sea state of 4 or 5, to start with. I'm sure a lot of the stuff can be put away, but there still a lot of breakable things that look like they can slide around.

Of course, the professional crews are specifically supposed to avoid those things, but then again private jets also never crash in storms because the clients just want to get there, right.
Yachts of the type in the video are mainly intended to bum around the Mediterranean and Caribbean, anchored and such. With no passengers aboard on longer transits such as the Atlantic crossing, which is usually done on a southern track. If they do find themselves in unexpectedly really bad weather some of the interior decorations are at risk, but likely not the ship as such.

If however one is more interested in going to exotic parts of the world, and for the yacht to normally handle bad weather it’s the explorer yacht type one wants. The largest of the type is currently the Solaris, pictured below. The explorer yachts often have an ice rating, more robust interior fittings, and other adjustments to sail the seven seas.
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Craiglxviii wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:50 pm IMG_2097.jpeg
This is by the way, according to my personal taste, pretty hideous as far as aestetics go.
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For those interested in the technical, engineering, bits of a superyacht this is a tour of the Victorious engineering spaces and bridge guided by the chief engineer and captain. Including some rare things such as a demonstration of the watertight doors and such:
https://youtu.be/3CZGrPZ68CY
Lovely tech nerdery.

(Here’s a general tour of the accomodation and such of the same yacht: https://youtu.be/u8MXfiq0-yU )
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Micael wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:34 pm
Craiglxviii wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:50 pm IMG_2097.jpeg
This is by the way, according to my personal taste, pretty hideous as far as aestetics go.
I like the streamlined superstructure, but it needs a 5” forward and helo pad with hangar aft.
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Micael wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:31 pm Yachts of the type in the video are mainly intended to bum around the Mediterranean and Caribbean, anchored and such. With no passengers aboard on longer transits such as the Atlantic crossing, which is usually done on a southern track. If they do find themselves in unexpectedly really bad weather some of the interior decorations are at risk, but likely not the ship as such.

If however one is more interested in going to exotic parts of the world, and for the yacht to normally handle bad weather it’s the explorer yacht type one wants. The largest of the type is currently the Solaris, pictured below. The explorer yachts often have an ice rating, more robust interior fittings, and other adjustments to sail the seven seas.
That's more or less my point. The yachts are primarily used for mild sea conditions, and get issues when things get stormy. And yes, the explorer yacht type sounds more my style.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:25 am
jemhouston wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 am John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
The Onassis yacht Christina was previously an RCN Prestonian-class frigate.
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Drunknsubmrnr wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:23 am
Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:25 am
jemhouston wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 am John Wayne converted a US Navy Minesweeper into a yacht, so a Coast Guard cutter type isn't out of the question.

That might be a nice yacht. but I can't see me on it.
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
The Onassis yacht Christina was previously an RCN Prestonian-class frigate.
Same complaint. Compare it to J. P. Morgan or Cornelius Vanderbuilt’s yachts, where they put the guns on the yachts :p
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Do they have room for VLS?
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:06 am
Drunknsubmrnr wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:23 am
Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:25 am
I saw a missile frigate converted into a mega yacht.

Shame they took the guns off.
The Onassis yacht Christina was previously an RCN Prestonian-class frigate.
Same complaint. Compare it to J. P. Morgan or Cornelius Vanderbuilt’s yachts, where they put the guns on the yachts :p
There’s a modern super yacht, built in 2007, that’s modelled after the JP Morgan yachts. Nero is the name, but it lacks any armament.
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