"The Acolyte"...

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...A new kind of Star Wars story - 150 years before The Phantom Menace. No Empire, no Skywalkers, and a healthy-ish Republic.

Starts with a Jedi getting whacked by a mysterious non-Jedi Force user, which leads to the Jedi Order deciding to go after the killer with what is for them extreme prejudice. It then becomes clear that all is not what it seems.

IMHO, it's pretty good. The Mandalorian it ain't, but it's a solid story that doesn't go off down unnecessary rabbit holes, and there have been a couple of setpieces so far that have been more than worthy of an SW story.

There have been a lot of stories on my radar the last week or so decrying the show as overly woke/feminist/you know the drill. I've got to say that for the most part I'm just not seeing it, though it does seem to have a slight (stressing the SLIGHT) case of American Sitcom Dad Disease - all the male characters have problems accomplishing anything without the Strong Capable Female.

But with all that in mind, I'm definitely going to stay with it. The first two eps are on Disney +, with new ones dropping weekly.

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Ok, I gave this a shot for the first 2 episodes...it had some merit.

Then episode 3 dropped.

Ugh.
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Nathan45 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:31 pm Ok, I gave this a shot for the first 2 episodes...it had some merit.

Then episode 3 dropped.

Ugh.
Yeah I read some stuff a few weeks ago that said that #3 and onward might turn some of the initial opinions around.
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But, who wouldn’t like a coven of black lesbian space witches producing two children through immaculate conception using The Thread (rebadged Force), [thus cleverly pre-emoting that problematic Anakin Skywalker guy], then having their stone fortress burnt/actually looking more like the Jedi massacred the occupants so they could get at one little girl?

Ah, as long as the people consume product, they don’t have to like it.
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Simon Darkshade wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:33 am But, who wouldn’t like a coven of black lesbian space witches producing two children through immaculate conception using The Thread (rebadged Force), [thus cleverly pre-emoting that problematic Anakin Skywalker guy], then having their stone fortress burnt/actually looking more like the Jedi massacred the occupants so they could get at one little girl?

Ah, as long as the people consume product, they don’t have to like it.
The problem is that people are increasingly not, especially in the old ways that were a lot more profitable.
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Nathan45 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:31 pm Ok, I gave this a shot for the first 2 episodes...it had some merit.

Then episode 3 dropped.

Ugh.
Lesbian witches‘ coven that pretty much shits on five decades of established SW lore? Yeah, that happened. I don‘t often shout at my TV outside of football (Association), but that one? I was LOUD! My wife asked me if I had smoked butt hairs. No, she does not get it :mrgreen:

I also did not know that stone can burn that easily.

Headlamp or whatever her name is is an ex-assistent to good ole Harvey Weinstein. I wonder if that (knowing where some skeletons are buried) is how she got the job. It can‘t be her abilities.
FFS, she openly stated that she sees the series as an LGBTQ statement, storytelling does not even register on her radar as a viable tool of the trade.
If 80-plus percent of the audience don‘t go along with her "vision", it is obviously their fault, and they are a bunch of -ists…yeah.

As an aside, my goddaughter is a flaming lesbian, and she hates hates HATES "The Acolyte". With a passion.

Headlamp also has her head so far up the ass of her activism that she also said Elsa and Anna from Frozen had the hots for each other. Sisters. Go figure :roll:
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They managed to make lesbian space witches unappealing to 18-52yo heterosexual males.
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Dumb question, but who is the market for this series? There are no cool spaceships / battles for the male demographic. From what I've been able to find out, lesbians are offered by this.

Disney bought LucasFilm's and Marvel for the male market since Disney was known as a girl brand. So, what do they do, try making both in a female brand, "The Force is Female, and the MSheU.

They don't can't even make them good roles. They start out as perfect, so they can't grow.

On some of the YouTube channels I follow blamed it on Black Rock and other major shareholders to push DEI or other messages. If you're going to push a message, do it subtlety. If you go back to ST:TOS, any time there was an African American character guest starring, Kirk always called them "Sir."

How many people who rated the Holiday Special actually saw it? I did, and other bits and pieces, Carrie Fisher singing is about the only thing I remember about it.
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jemhouston wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:27 pm Dumb question, but who is the market for this series? There are no cool spaceships / battles for the male demographic. From what I've been able to find out, lesbians are offered by this.

Disney bought LucasFilm's and Marvel for the male market since Disney was known as a girl brand. So, what do they do, try making both in a female brand, "The Force is Female, and the MSheU.

They don't can't even make them good roles. They start out as perfect, so they can't grow.

On some of the YouTube channels I follow blamed it on Black Rock and other major shareholders to push DEI or other messages. If you're going to push a message, do it subtlety. If you go back to ST:TOS, any time there was an African American character guest starring, Kirk always called them "Sir."

How many people who rated the Holiday Special actually saw it? I did, and other bits and pieces, Carrie Fisher singing is about the only thing I remember about it.
They hired the Hasbro people who presided over the Open Gaming License fiasco </sarcasm>

I suspect it’s the ongoing corporate problem of major creative/marketing decisions being made by people who are fundamentally out of touch with the people they are trying to sell product to. Especially if they despise their product and their customers, which is a very common issue.

It’s not like messaging fiction is new. There’s a long, long, long history of the socialist novel (such as The Jungle, while the entire genre of science fiction exists to be social commentary.

The problem is not “message fiction.” It’s that the fiction is bad. Eleanor Ripley or Princess Leia these are not. And that’s the problem. There’s plenty of appetite for strong, well-written female protagonists, and has been since the 1960s - if not earlier.

So much of this stuff proves the rule that the more they hype the demographics of the writers, actresses or characters, the worse the writing.
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Haven't seen any of the episode but from what i've read on line and heard...the latest episode is rather good.......to the point that it is being asked if someone different is running the show.
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Paul Nuttall wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:11 pm Haven't seen any of the episode but from what i've read on line and heard...the latest episode is rather good.......to the point that it is being asked if someone different is running the show.
Yes, I watched it and I don’t understand what suddenly happened. We go from some utter turdiness to the best lightsaber action in Star Wars history. Clearly Manny Jacinto and Dafne Keen trained very hard to be able to pull off their parts in that.

Although, spoiler:
Spoiler!
I’m not sure it was a good idea to kill off Dafbe’s character, it was the one that I cared the most about in the whole cast. Pity.
[Edit] Here’s a snippet of the lightsaber fighting if anyone wants to get an idea what it’s like without having to watch the show as such:
https://x.com/reginaekim/status/1806002 ... 92163?s=46
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Micael wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:28 am
Paul Nuttall wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:11 pm Haven't seen any of the episode but from what i've read on line and heard...the latest episode is rather good.......to the point that it is being asked if someone different is running the show.
Yes, I watched it and I don’t understand what suddenly happened. We go from some utter turdiness to the best lightsaber action in Star Wars history. Clearly Manny Jacinto and Dafne Keen trained very hard to be able to pull off their parts in that.

Although, spoiler:
Spoiler!
I’m not sure it was a good idea to kill off Dafbe’s character, it was the one that I cared the most about in the whole cast. Pity.
[Edit] Here’s a snippet of the lightsaber fighting if anyone wants to get an idea what it’s like without having to watch the show as such:
https://x.com/reginaekim/status/1806002 ... 92163?s=46
A turd with a cocktail umbrella on it is still a turd.
Lesbian Headlamp done screwed up, as did Darth Kennedy. Again, in the latter case.
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Face it, Disney Star Wars isn't for fans of George Lucas Star Wars. Stop watching, stop commenting on it, and just let it fade away.

Given some luck, Disney will under and like a Phoenix come back stronger than ever.

No, I haven't been taking the war reserve stuff. :lol:
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jemhouston wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:29 am Face it, Disney Star Wars isn't for fans of George Lucas Star Wars. Stop watching, stop commenting on it, and just let it fade away.

Given some luck, Disney will under and like a Phoenix come back stronger than ever.

No, I haven't been taking the war reserve stuff. :lol:
Well lets be optimistic, I’m sure it’s going well for them, lets have a look and see what they’ve got going on.
Disney has been hacked.

Around 1TiB of Data is stolen including Unreleased projects, raw images and code, some logins, links to internal api/web pages, and more.
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The all-time high Disney stock closing price was 201.91 on March 08, 2021.
The Disney 52-week high stock price is 123.74, which is 27.4% above the current share price.
The Disney 52-week low stock price is 78.73, which is 18.9% below the current share price.
The average Disney stock price for the last 52 weeks is 96.65.
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https://arstechnica.com/culture/2024/08 ... ne-season/

Poor ratings and uneven reviews, plus an expensive show to film.
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