History, Politics And Current Affairs

First photos are out of the trial version. Changes may happen before it’s introduced. The name is ”Tjänsteuniform m/26”, and is supposed to start being introduced in 2026 with changeover completed in 2030.

Here’s the trial one: It will replaced the considerably more greyish (and generally pretty unliked) m/87 uniform which the King wears in this photo: It’s pretty retro in style, and personally I think it looks better than what it replaces. It has some similarities with older uniforms such as the m/23 and m/39. Overall it comes off as pretty British in style as well, especially with the return of the Sam Browne belt which has been gone since 1958.

Any thoughts on how it appears?

Even more similarities with the m/52 uniform:

It does remind me of the British Army.

You could hang a nice axe off that Sam Browne. Just sayin’.

Def retro, and very British looking.

Why not go back to the blue the Swedish Army wore for centuries? It’s not like you’re going to be fighting in it.

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:26 am Def retro, and very British looking.

Why not go back to the blue the Swedish Army wore for centuries? It’s not like you’re going to be fighting in it.

I think there’s a few reasons why they’ve gone towards this. One is that the green makes it pretty clear that it’s an army uniform, the greyish one sometimes caused foreigners to think the wearers were airforce. Blue would probably have the same effect. Another is that the period which the style associates to is the one in modern times during which the army was the most capable.

It Retros very much. It has strong flavors, to me, at least, of the WWII era. I don't know if that was intentional, but I do like it better than the current style/cloth.

Of course, I'm not IN the military, have never served in any military, and am not Swedish, so three strikes and you're out and take my opinion with as much salt as necessary.

Belushi TD

Micael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:17 pm First photos are out of the trial version. Changes may happen before it’s introduced. The name is ”Tjänsteuniform m/26”, and is supposed to start being introduced in 2026 with changeover completed in 2030.

Here’s the trial one:
82FAC60F-FC6A-4169-9035-378DCF1E1DC5.jpeg

B83E398C-34EF-49FA-929E-787F5ED63B9E.jpeg

It will replaced the considerably more greyish (and generally pretty unliked) m/87 uniform which the King wears in this photo:
003B7587-1382-43D3-A24F-E7E0B997D929.jpeg

It’s pretty retro in style, and personally I think it looks better than what it replaces. It has some similarities with older uniforms such as the m/23 and m/39. Overall it comes off as pretty British in style as well, especially with the return of the Sam Browne belt which has been gone since 1958.

Any thoughts on how it appears?

Very much so. A good Sam Browne can’t be beat. Very similar to our Service/ No.2 Dress. (Massively simplified here as going into British regimental/ corps dress uniform vagaries would take us to the heat death of the universe).

All they need is a Police Callbox in the background.

Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:18 pm

Micael wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:17 pm First photos are out of the trial version. Changes may happen before it’s introduced. The name is ”Tjänsteuniform m/26”, and is supposed to start being introduced in 2026 with changeover completed in 2030.

Here’s the trial one:
82FAC60F-FC6A-4169-9035-378DCF1E1DC5.jpeg

B83E398C-34EF-49FA-929E-787F5ED63B9E.jpeg

It will replaced the considerably more greyish (and generally pretty unliked) m/87 uniform which the King wears in this photo:
003B7587-1382-43D3-A24F-E7E0B997D929.jpeg

It’s pretty retro in style, and personally I think it looks better than what it replaces. It has some similarities with older uniforms such as the m/23 and m/39. Overall it comes off as pretty British in style as well, especially with the return of the Sam Browne belt which has been gone since 1958.

Any thoughts on how it appears?

Very much so. A good Sam Browne can’t be beat. Very similar to our Service/ No.2 Dress. (Massively simplified here as going into British regimental/ corps dress uniform vagaries would take us to the heat death of the universe).
IMG_4418.jpeg

Yeah I saw a person in the know (Sergeant Major of the Army and who also models the uniform in the photos) comment that apart from the Swedish uniforms of the past, that specifically the Irish variation of the British style uniforms was one they looked closely at. I guess it could be considered slightly more similar to the Swedish trial one:

Belushi TD wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:37 am It Retros very much. It has strong flavors, to me, at least, of the WWII era. I don't know if that was intentional, but I do like it better than the current style/cloth.

Of course, I'm not IN the military, have never served in any military, and am not Swedish, so three strikes and you're out and take my opinion with as much salt as necessary.

Belushi TD

I appreciate the comments from people who aren’t neck deep in the military world, it makes for a more balanced picture.

As others have said it definitely strikes me as a version of the Irish uniform but using the less intense green British Army colour.

Do different regiments have different accoutrements or is it fairly standardised apart from cap badges?

Micael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:38 pm

Belushi TD wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:37 am It Retros very much. It has strong flavors, to me, at least, of the WWII era. I don't know if that was intentional, but I do like it better than the current style/cloth.

Of course, I'm not IN the military, have never served in any military, and am not Swedish, so three strikes and you're out and take my opinion with as much salt as necessary.

Belushi TD

I appreciate the comments from people who aren’t neck deep in the military world, it makes for a more balanced picture.

Well, you're in luck, boy-o! This is the internet, after all, and even though I am completely unqualified to have an opinion on a particular topic, I HAVE ONE ANYWAY! And WOE betide anyone who disagrees with it, no matter how misinformed, asinine, troglodytish and immature it may be!

On a more serious note, I'm glad you found it of value.

Belushi TD

Straker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:20 pm As others have said it definitely strikes me as a version of the Irish uniform but using the less intense green British Army colour.

Do different regiments have different accoutrements or is it fairly standardised apart from cap badges?

They do have some differences between the regiments, first the type of unit is noted on the lapels. Crosslaid rifles for infantry, crosslaid sabres for cavalry, flaming cannon ball for artillery etc. Each regiment has got a symbol that is placed on the shoulder tabs closest to the arms, next to the rank insignia, that is generally taken from their respective coat of arms. In the sample photos it’s the symbol for the whole army (two thicker straight swords underneath a royal crown) since he is a part of army staff. The buttons also have unique designs, sometimes have the same symbol as the shoulder tabs but can be another one. I think it’s the three crowns in the samples, but a bit hard to tell. The cap and color on the berets differ as noted, but the non-beret headgear is the same apart from the silver bit noted below.

Guard regiments have all the buttons, symbols, rank insignia and such in silver instead. This might seem the wrong way around since the ”regular” regiments seemingly have gold ones, but they technically have brass ones (that look golden). In the way back times they had more obviously brass ones, guards had silver, and those belonging to the general staff had gold ones. The latter category disappeared over time.

Straker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:20 pm As others have said it definitely strikes me as a version of the Irish uniform but using the less intense green British Army colour.

Do different regiments have different accoutrements or is it fairly standardised apart from cap badges?

If different regiments & corps don’t look completely different, and in fact anything but uniform, within a decade? Amateurs

Can check out pages 109-122 of the 2015 uniform regs:
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteasset ... 45f4ffda08

That’s the various buttons and insignia for units. More beret insignias have been added since. As can be gleaned from the size of the regs overall there’s a lot of uniforms, variations, and opportunities for getting something wrong.

Another photo popped up. I’m not sure what I think of the skirt variant for females, it kind of looks a tad weird here. I DO like the high collar variants though.

Micael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:29 pm Another photo popped up. I’m not sure what I think of the skirt variant for females, it kind of looks a tad weird here. I DO like the high collar variants though.

The tunic needs to lose the pockets, and I am not enamored of the high-collar version. It’s more formal than the suit-jacket uniforms, but probably no more comfortable than the more formal dress uniforms. It looks like a sour spot - if you’re going to go standing collar, don the blues.

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:46 pm

Micael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:29 pm Another photo popped up. I’m not sure what I think of the skirt variant for females, it kind of looks a tad weird here. I DO like the high collar variants though.

The tunic needs to lose the pockets, and I am not enamored of the high-collar version. It’s more formal than the suit-jacket uniforms, but probably no more comfortable than the more formal dress uniforms. It looks like a sour spot - if you’re going to go standing collar, don the blues.

I got some unconfirmed rumint that the high collar version will be worn by soldiers and the junior NCOs. The tie version for senior NCOs and officers. But while I can’t make out the rank insignias here, the guy on the right is an officer (Sam Browne belt/sword plus duty officer thingy around his neck with enamel which is for officers only). So that seems to contradict that, although they are trying out different combos so I believe that things may change.

Everything I'd heard about high collar uniforms is that they are scratchy, uncomfortable, restrain the neck, and are otherwise a pain.

Flag officers making final decisions on formal uniforms should have to wear the things daily for at least a week or two before giving the stamp of approval. A week or two for every version. Yes, that male two star heading to a meeting with a high collar junior NCO jacket, skirt, and mid-height heels is on the uniform board. Don't laugh, they're always looking for people for the next uniform evaluation team....

That would cut down on a lot of the uniform silliness seen around. Note that the most dubious versions are often for the junior NCOs.