The Vaults of Heaven (AU)

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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:19 am
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jemhouston wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:36 am

Critters need to eat too.
That they do, and that was most assuredly the tribe’s attitude towards the Communists during World War III…
Critters need to eat was very much the attitude of those with a generous and charitable outlook.

Those who felt differently acted accordingly.
Critters don't need the whole bodies, just the legs and maybe the arms. The rest can still talk.
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Good point, there.
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Another brief update:

13 December 2010
11th Special Reconnaissance Squadron
Barzanian Air Force Base

Mantell reviewed the photographs, the map, and Dunn's report.

Jorgensen banged on the doorframe, and Mantell waved her in.

"Morning, XO."

"Good morning, sir. On deck for today is an 8K run in full tactical gear, followed immediately by a lovely morning at the Kill House, and practicing surreptitious network entry after lunch."

"Outstanding. I'll be out in a few. Captain Dunn found something while she was on duty last night, and I want you and Watanabe to look it over this afternoon. Might be nothing. Might be something. Might be the Big Enchilada."

Jorgensen sighed. "Boss, you are entirely too cheerful to deal with before morning PT." She asked, "What folder is it in on the share drive?"

Mantell smiled. "EBEN EMAEL."

Jorgensen stared at her commanding officer, then said, "You've gone off your chump."

"Look, if you intend by that utilization of an obscure colloquialism to imply that my sanity is not up to scratch . . . you're probably right." He sighed. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of Man. If mountain ranges and ocean can be overcome . . . anything built by man can be overcome. The only question is if we're the ones that can do it."

* * *

13 December 2010
Tohono O'odham Nation Tribal Office Building
Sells, AZ


James Zepeda climbed out of the jeep and went to the entrance of the tribal office building. He presented his police credentials, and was told by the receptionist to head to Conference Room 2 in the basement.

Zepeda headed downstairs and noted that the basement walls were lined with steel cladding.

Conference Room 2 was well lit and comfortably furnished. A well-dressed sixtyish woman, graying hair neatly tied in a bun, was standing in the room. Zepeda had a sense he'd met her before.

"Officer Zepeda, thank you for coming. I am Wavalene Lewis, Special Advisor to the Chairman."

Zepeda's memory clicked; she'd been one the instructors at the Tohono O'odham Community College, where she'd taught American history and the history of the Tohono O'odham, or "The People of the Desert."

"Special Advisor for what, exactly?"

Lewis smiled. "Ah, that is the question, isn't it?"

Zepeda waited.

Lewis gestured to a chair. "Please sit down, we have much ground to cover."

Zepeda sat, and Lewis closed the door, then locked it.

She then went to the lectern. "Do you watch the Sunday news shows, by any chance?"

Zepeda nodded. "They've been focused on the mess with Mexico."

Lewis nodded. "And your encounter last night got my attention. We know Airman Sergeant Mantell; she's learning our language via distance tutoring, which is an interesting thing that, in my old job, would be called indicators and warnings." Lewis chuckled, then said, "And in my current job as Special Advisor to the Chairman for National Security Affairs."

Zepeda blinked in surprise. "We need a National Security Advisor?"

Lewis nodded, then asked, "How much of our history do you remember from TOCC? Specifically, the Gadsden Purchase?"

Zepeda nodded. "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us."

Lewis nodded. "And that means that the People have security interests south of here. Our brothers and sisters have waited over 20 years for liberation from Mexico. We need to send people south to prepare the way. I looked at your records. Graduated near the top of your high school class, but not in one of the honors positions; served in the Army as a LRRP scout, and finished your obligation as a drilling reservist with our Ranger Scout unit; you're fluent in both our language and Spanish; you've worked undercover in the gang unit; and you are a prime practitioner of Himdag."

Himdag was the culture, way of life, and values uniquely held by the Tohono O’odham, the things that made them unique as a people. It covered everything from traditional methods of harvesting food to spirituality and community life.

Zepeda nodded. "I see." He paused, then said, "My wife and children?"

"We will tell them you're on a special assignment . . . and that it's important." She paused, then said, "Mexico is going to do something really stupid. You saw enough of that sort of thing in the gang unit; there's only so much trash talk that can happen before someone has to take a swing. We need to be ready to capitalize on it, to reunite our people. The border crossed us, true enough; but it needs to finish its journey."

Zepeda considered this, then said, "I accept."
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Oh, boy. The tribe stirring things up south of the border is something POTUS doesn't need right now. Even though hostilities are pretty much a foregone conclusion, he's still trying various channels to try and cool this off, even though he knows it's a waste of time. "Hey, you can stir up your kin south of the border, but we'll let you know when it's time."
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13 December 2010
East of Sierra Vista, AZ


The RQ-3 Darkstar cruised at 45,000 feet. Its sensors detected all manner of electromagnetic radiation and relayed it to its ground station.

It continued on its patrol station, utterly unconcerned with the take from those sensors.

* * *

Creech Air Force Base
Indian Wells, NV


Technical Sergeant Alicia Moreno blinked, then "rewound" the data feed from the Darkstar.

She made certain she knew what she was looking at, then spoke quietly into her headset. "Sir, I just picked up a air defense datalink that's about ten miles from the border. Looked like a quick network test."

Chief Warrant Officer 4 John Buff called up the feed on his workstation, looked it over carefully, then said, "I see it. Someone's being a very naughty boy. Make sure we get this out on the 12th Air Force GCCS-AF net."

Suddenly, a red diamond with the parabolic antenna and lightning bolt of a hostile radar, marked "SA-10 FCR."

Moreno said, "Sir, FLAP LID detected, geo-located to Rancho El Disel, Sonora!"

"Steady up, Sergeant."

The icon was suddenly surrounded by an ellipsoid showing the computer's estimate of where the radar could be going, indicating that it had gone off the air.

* * *

11th SRS
Barzanian Air Force Base


Mantell looked at the map and frowned.

Jorgensen banged on the door of the ops office and said, "12th Air Force is convening a VTC in 15, sir."

Mantell walked over to the squadron conference room. The GCCS-AF plot was on one of the big screens.

He checked his wheelbook and dialed a number at Fort Hood.

A man's voice answered. "116th Cavalry, CO's office, Staff Sergeant Rockwell speaking."

"Colonel Mantell for Colonel Mantell, if she's available."

Two seconds later, Helen's voice came over the phone. "Josh! This is a pleasant surprise."

"Let's go secure, TS, please."

After they'd secured the line, Helen said, "Well, now it's not as pleasant. What's up?"

"They just picked up air defense datalinks and an SA-10 fire control set in Sonora."

"Awful close to Risner."

"Indeed. Lots of racket up and down the border strip. But the thing is . . . our chunk of the US border is quiet."

Helen said, "Too quiet?"

"Exactly. As in 'Schnee Eifel quiet,' from December of '44."

"Josh, Pedro's missing something: they don't have the equivalent of the 6th SS Panzer Army. We do."

"Mm-hmm. But they're conspicuously trying to look inconspicuous."

Helen sighed. "And I don't have a logical answer for you. I'll bug my Two about it."

"Thank you."

"And don't do anything stupid, Josh."

"C'mon, you know me."

"That's exactly what I'm talking about. Love you."

"Love you."

After he hung up, he tapped his fingers on the table. What are you up to, Pedro?
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Nothing good or smart.
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13 December 2010
11th SRS HQ
Barzanian Air Force Base


The conference call had been inconclusive. All kinds of opinions were being offered.

Josh had held his counsel, instead taking notes of the conversation.

In his office he looked at the map and frowned.

None of this makes sense, but you never assume your enemy is stupid.

The phone rang--the direct-to-CO line that few people had.

"Colonel Mantell."

"Colonel, it's General Reynolds. I kind of noticed you and Guru weren't exactly active participants in the conference call."

Mantell said, "Sir, the signal to noise ratio was already below unity, I didn't want to make things worse."

Reynolds was silent for a minute, then said, "I understand. Still, I'd like to hear your thoughts."

Mantell said, "The Mexicans are making a lot of noise there and there, sir."

"I thought it was 'here and there,' Colonel."

"Not exactly true in my case, sir. Things are awfully quiet in these here parts."

"Maybe too quiet?"

"My first thought was 'Schnee Eifel quiet,' sir."

"Schnee Eifel?"

"Quiet sector in the Ardennes in mid-December 1944, sir."

"You expecting an offensive?"

"Oh, hell, yes, sir. From our side. We've got the forces in place to throw Pedro's boys one hell of a beating as it is, and more are arriving. And that's the problem I have, sir; the readily apparent answers don't support why this chunk of the border is so damn quiet."

Reynolds said, "Colonel . . . I'm a fighter pilot. I don't understand the ground-pounder stuff in the way that a soldier, a Marine, or a special operator does. But my instincts tell me this is significant. It's the dog that didn't bark. I'm going to put some analysts on this tasking, and I'm going to have them work with your A-2."

"Be advised, sir, we do have a terrain anomaly in our sector, about 150 miles from the border trace. I want them looking at it with an eye to confirming or denying that it's artificial."

"Have Captain Dunn handle the tasking. I won't say anything about it. What's your gut say?"

"My gut says it looks artificial, the variations are a little too regular for my taste. But I can't point at anything and say 'that's what makes it artificial,' sir."

Another long pause ensued.

"Colonel . . . you can't put your finger on it and come back with hard data. I understand that. But is there anyone who could?"

An idea hit Mantell. "Come to think of it, sir . . . Colonel Lodge out at LeMay AFB might be able to hang numbers on it."

Hildebrandt said, "Colonel, upload what you have to the 12th Air Force SIPR portal and I'll task Colonel Lodge to look it over with an eye to 'hanging numbers on it.' Maybe she comes back goose eggs,but at least we used every tool hanging above the workbench. Good thinking."

"Thank you, sir."

"Anything else?"

"Sir, I'm taking my senior staff down to Presidio on a staff ride in a couple days, get an idea of the terrain close in to the Rio Grande. Civilian attire, in a rented four-wheel-drive, covered as going hunting for whitetail deer. Hopefully we can bag one for cover."

"Sounds like a plan, Colonel. Now I'm going to bug Guru at the 419th."

* * *

419th Tactical Fighter Wing
Hill Air Force Base
Ogden, UT


Guru got off the phone with General Reynolds, and heard a knock at the door.

"Show yourself!"

Captain James Ellis, the A-1 officer, said, "Sir, I've got a set of travel orders for Major Ray. They want her to give a SERE refresher briefing to the 11th Special Reconnaissance Squadron--"

He took the paperwork and noted it was from AFRES HQ at Robins AFB. "When is she going?"

"Flying down tomorrow morning, sir."

Guru sighed. "Damn it, you'd think that both me and Kelly having the gongs would earn us a little courtesy from AFRES HQ . . . you know, things like a smidgen of advance notice . . . well, the 419th is the official SLJW of the Air Force."

"SLJW, sir?"

Guru chuckled. "Shitty Little Jobs Wing." He sighed, signed the orders, then said, "Let Major Ray know she's being called active on zero notice."

"Yes, sir."
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NIcely done.

Watch it on the border: Josh and his people might wind up on TV-Wouldn't be surprised if there's network news crews showing up...

Guru has in this timeline and in the main one two Air Force Crosses at war's end. In 2010, there was a board convened by DOD to consider upgrading Air Force Cross, Navy Cross, and DSCs to the Medal. One of his AFCs-for doing some SAM-busting on Day One of LONG RIFLE, was so upgraded (the other is for leading BOLO II). Kelly Ray's AFC for covering the Open Water escape out of Cuba-and suffering quite a bit in Castro's torture chambers-was also upgraded. She has another AFC for her activities in the POW underground at several POW compounds.

Goalie was in Guru's back seat on that LONG RIFLE mission as usual: she originally got a Silver Star. With the MOH upgrade, she had hers upped to a AFC.
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13 December 2010
Barzanian Air Force Base


A gunshot roused Mantell from a sound sleep.

He heard something go thump outside his hootch.

He was out of bed, feet in his boots and the boots laced, grabbing his rifle and chambering a round, in less than three seconds.

He crouched low and opened the door a crack.

That's when he saw the dead whitetail deer outside his door.

"Goddamnit."

* * *

14 December 2010

Major Jorgensen and Chief Morton were in Mantell's office.

Mantell said, "Well, I just got back from Colonel Jensen's office. And she took a rather impressive strip off of me, not that I didn't deserve it. Let's review the facts of the matter. Airman First Class Schmuckatelli--"

Jorgensen said, "Actually, his name is Martinsen, sir."

Mantell glared at her. "It is unwise to tip the vessel of knowledge, XO."

"A thousand apologies, sir."

"As I was saying, our guy Schmuckatelli has a brainwave and drops the whitetail right in front of my hootch."

Jorgensen nodded. "Alcohol was involved, sir "

Mantell sighed. "As was a GAU-26/A .338 Lapua sniper rifle, with the thermal scope, no less. 1,700 yard shot, too. At least he got it dead on with the first round. That said, after I hold the Article 15, I have a meeting with two game wardens from the Texas Park and Wildlife Department, and I understand they are mightily displeased. So, XO, did I get the facts in general correct?"

"Yes, sir. In addition to hazarding his CO, Martinsen also violated state law regarding taking game without a tag, no hunting license, discharging a firearm in a prohibited area, and using a prohibited method--night vision gear is a no-no."

Mantell nodded. "All right. What's that work to?"

Jorgensen said, "About $1,300, all told."

"And, ordinarily, I'd take a stripe and six weeks' pay. That works to roughly $2,250 or so, no he goes pay due for three pay periods. A $1,300 fine is no fun as an E-3. Chief, your thoughts on a suspended bust and suspended forfeiture of pay, conditioned on not fighting the game warden ticket and paying that off, and he's in hack and assigned extra duties for six weeks?"

Morton said, "I'm inclined to not suspend the bust, but that's commander's discretion, sir."

"It's suspended on the hope that I do not see him in my office again for the next year. If he keeps his nose clean, it gets expunged. If I have to give him another Article 15, he walks in as an E-2, he will be getting a bust to E-1, and I will not be suspending that."

Morton was pensive for a moment, then said, "It works, sir. He still gets his tail feathers singed . . . but he's not completely broke. Extra duty, confined to quarters, no recreation or off-base pass . . . assuming, of course, that we actually get any time off with the schedule we're training to . . . sir, I think he'll take your message to heart."

* * *

Mantell maintained a neutral expression as Airman First Class Charles Martinsen marched into his office.

Martinsen halted, saluted, and said, "Sir, Airman First Class Martinsen reports to the squadron commander as ordered."

Mantell returned the salute and said, "Airman Martinsen, you stand accused of the following specifications under the Uniform Code of Military Justice: Specification One: violation of Article 92, Failure to Obey Lawful Order or Regulation, in that you did willfully and knowingly discharge a firearm on Barzanian Air Force Base without good and proper cause for doing so. Specification Two: violation of Article 109: Waste, spoilage or destruction of other than military property, specifically, in that you knowingly and willfully shot a whitetail deer without the permission of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. Specification Three: Article 114, Endangerment, in that you knowingly and willfully discharged a firearm in a reckless manner, in that said deer was immediately adjacent to an inhabited building, that you were shooting at a range of 1,700 yards, and that you were intoxicated when you fired the weapon. How do you plead?"

"Sir, I plead guilty to all three specifications."

"Very well. I hereby sentence you as follows: First, you are confined to quarters, the mess hall, and your place of duty for six weeks. You may attend religious services as appropriate to your creed. You will muster with the Charge of Quarters per the squadron Restriction Plan. Second, you are sentenced to a reduction in rank to the grade of Airman, said reduction suspended. Third, you are sentenced to forfeiture of pay and allowances for six weeks, said forfeiture suspended. The conditions of said suspensions are as follows: first, you will accept the ticket that the Texas Game Warden will issue for the multiple violations of Texas State laws regarding hunting, you will plead guilty, and you will pay the fines imposed. I remind you that forfeiture of pay and allowances is nearly double the amount of the fine. The second condition is that you will not engage in any further misconduct of any kind for the next year. If I have to hold another Article 15 during that period, you will walk into my office as an Airman, and you will leave as an Airman Basic, with a recommendation to Group and Wing for you to be separated administratively, and you will almost certainly have an Other than Honorable discharge. Right now, you've taken a pretty serious hit--but it's not fatal to your career. Screw up again, and it will be. I'm doing this not because I like you personally, but because I think you're salvageable. With all that in mind, do you agree to the conditions I have outlined to you?"

"Yes, sir!"

"Very well. These proceedings are concluded. Report to the admin chief for processing your unit diary entries. DIsmissed."

Martinsen took one step backwards and saluted.

Mantell returned the salute, and Martinsen executed an about face and marched out of the office.

Mantell felt an irrational surge of anger.

"XO, Chief, I need a few minutes to myself, please."

He returned their salutes and watched them leave.

He turned and looked out the window of his office.

A knock sounded at the door.

He turned and called, "Enter!"

Judith Levy entered, closed the door, and marched to Mantell's desk.

She saluted, then said, "Sir, Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Levy requests permission to speak to the squadron commander!"

Mantell forced himself to not laugh. He returned the salute.

"Permission granted. Stand at ease. Better yet, sit down."

They sat, and Judith regarded him carefully.

"You're pissed off."

"Yes."

"Why?"

"Because Martinsen was a dumbshit."

"Agreed. But that's not all."

Mantell inhaled, then exhaled.

"In case it's escaped you, we're about to go to war. Mexico hath truly fornicated with the canine this time, and my people are going to be paying the piper. And I don't need this on top of everything."

Judith said, "He reminds me of a certain Lance Corporal of Marines I knew in 1985. Smart as a whip, but almost no emotional intelligence. The difference is that you had to come to terms with your own mortality. Martinsen has to come to terms with almost punching his squadron commander's ticket from almost a mile away because he was drunk and foolish."

"You think I went too hard on him?"

"What did you give him?"

"Suspended bust and suspended pay forfeiture, contingent on paying the Texas Game Warden fines and staying out of trouble for a year. Six weeks of restriction to quarters and place of duty, six weeks of extra duty--that's not suspended."

Judith nodded. "I think that was just about right. He knows he screwed up. And now he knows that he's been given a second chance. I suspect he'll move heaven and earth to show you that he's worthy of that second chance."

"And I have to talk to Group and Wing about it."

"They'll trust your judgement. But there is one thing I do recommend."

"What's that?"

"Hold a squadron formation. Explain what happened, why you took the actions you did, and use the opportunity to communicate your expectations regarding conduct and weapons safety. Tell them that this was the one time you're going to show mercy. Next time, you swing that hammer as hard as you can. Close the loop with your airmen."

Mantell thought it over, then said, "I have this amazing idea. I'm going to hold a squadron formation and explain what I did and why I did it, and I'm going to tell everyone to not fuck up again."
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Good one. Be glad a certain TV show is still a few years away, because this incident would've made the cut for an episode.
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Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:42 am Good one. Be glad a certain TV show is still a few years away, because this incident would've made the cut for an episode.
Which TV show?
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Question....

If the shot was from 1,700 yards away, would the bullet still be supersonic? Or would it still be far enough ahead of the sound of the gunshot that the deer would have been killed and hit the hooch would have been heard first and THEN the shot?

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Belushi TD wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:54 pm Question....

If the shot was from 1,700 yards away, would the bullet still be supersonic? Or would it still be far enough ahead of the sound of the gunshot that the deer would have been killed and hit the hooch would have been heard first and THEN the shot?

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Yes, it would be supersonic. https://www.midwayusa.com/brand-ambassa ... 5942a26bac
Unlike the 300 Win Mag, which is primarily offered in hunting configurations, the 338 Lapua is a purpose-built, long-range cartridge. Although it is a very effective hunting cartridge, most factory load offerings for the 338 Lapua consist of heavy, aerodynamic projectiles to maximize long range potential.

If we look at Berger’s Match Grade Ammunition in 338 Lapua, we see that it launches a 300 grain Hybrid OTM at a muzzle velocity of 2,725 feet per second. With an astonishing G1 ballistic coefficient of 0.822 and a muzzle energy of 4,947 ft/lbs., this load has a maximum supersonic range of around 1,910 yards, where it is carrying 859 ft/lbs. of kinetic energy.
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Belushi TD wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:54 pm Question....

If the shot was from 1,700 yards away, would the bullet still be supersonic? Or would it still be far enough ahead of the sound of the gunshot that the deer would have been killed and hit the hooch would have been heard first and THEN the shot?

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It wasn't an instant kill. The deer dropped a few seconds after getting hit.
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jemhouston wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:49 am
Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:42 am Good one. Be glad a certain TV show is still a few years away, because this incident would've made the cut for an episode.
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Thanks all, for clearing that up, with regards to the shot/kill timing.

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Wolfman wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:43 pm
jemhouston wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:49 am
Matt Wiser wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:42 am Good one. Be glad a certain TV show is still a few years away, because this incident would've made the cut for an episode.
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Is that E-3 already sniper qualified? If not, send him to sniper training the second he has cleaned up his act…
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Jotun wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:35 pm Is that E-3 already sniper qualified? If not, send him to sniper training the second he has cleaned up his act…
He is. Special Recon loves themselves the long gun.
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Poohbah wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:58 pm
Jotun wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:35 pm Is that E-3 already sniper qualified? If not, send him to sniper training the second he has cleaned up his act…
He is. Special Recon loves themselves the long gun.
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