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Could it have been flown by the Spain and the Russians got trigger happy?
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jemhouston wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 1:21 am Could it have been flown by the Spain and the Russians got trigger happy?
Entirely possible.
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Photo: Photo: The Invincible-class light aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious (R06) leading the Type 42 destroyer HMS Manchester (D95) and HMS Beaver (F93), a Type 22 missile frigate as they steam past the Rock of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean. Photo taken after the liberation of Gibraltar in 1986 and before the Battle of the Baltic exits (1987)

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A Baja War Trophy: a North Korean Koksan 170-mm SP Gun found abandoned in Northern Sonora during the push to Hermosillo by 3rd AD, January, 2010:
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Matt Wiser wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 1:57 am A Baja War Trophy: a North Korean Koksan 170-mm SP Gun found abandoned in Northern Sonora during the push to Hermosillo by 3rd AD, January, 2010:
The Mexican artillery fire plan consisted of "yank the lanyard one time and get the f*** out of there before the counter battery mission hit."
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Poohbah wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 2:02 am
Matt Wiser wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 1:57 am A Baja War Trophy: a North Korean Koksan 170-mm SP Gun found abandoned in Northern Sonora during the push to Hermosillo by 3rd AD, January, 2010:
The Mexican artillery fire plan consisted of "yank the lanyard one time and get the f*** out of there before the counter battery mission hit."
Or the air strike was called in.
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Matt Wiser wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 1:57 am A Baja War Trophy: a North Korean Koksan 170-mm SP Gun found abandoned in Northern Sonora during the push to Hermosillo by 3rd AD, January, 2010:
Those things had a really long reach, IIRC.
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They did. And the Mexicans were actually smart: since the Armistice terms prohibited heavy armor and artillery up to 25NM south of the border, they got GPS units-commercially available, mind you, and presurveyed battery sites, missile launch positions, and a lot more from the Colorado River all the way to Matamoros and the Gulf Coast. Lot of good it did them in the end...
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Photo: a Victor K2 of No. 55 Squadron RAF based out of RAF Honington, visiting RAF Waddington home of No. 55 Squadron RAF which operates the Rockwell/BAe Lancer B.1,1990.

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Lordroel wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 1:38 pm Photo: a Victor K2 of No. 55 Squadron RAF based out of RAF Honington, visiting RAF Waddington home of No. 55 Squadron RAF which operates the Rockwell/BAe Lancer B.1,1990.

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That looks like something out of a Gerry Anderson show.
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jemhouston wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:57 pm
Lordroel wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 1:38 pm Photo: a Victor K2 of No. 55 Squadron RAF based out of RAF Honington, visiting RAF Waddington home of No. 55 Squadron RAF which operates the Rockwell/BAe Lancer B.1,1990.

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That looks like something out of a Gerry Anderson show.
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Poohbah wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 5:23 pm
I kinda miss the future we never got.
To bad the Victor K2 was not able to refuel a Rockwell/BAe Lancer B.1 in flight, because that would be something to see.
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Photo: USS Missouri (BB-63) firing main guns at dusk. Forrestal-class aircraft carrier USS Ranger (CV-61) in background undergoing underway replenishment. photo taken most likely after the end of the First Kamthatka Raid codenamed VERMONT CEDAR, 1987. VERMONT CEDAR involved a multi-carrier battlegroup, a surface action group centered on the USS Missouri, EASTERN EXPRESS strikes from Hong Kong, and special operations support from, of all branches, the Air Force.

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Lordroel wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:54 pm Photo: USS Missouri (BB-63) firing main guns at dusk. Forrestal-class aircraft carrier USS Ranger (CV-61) in background undergoing underway replenishment. photo taken most likely after the end of the First Kamthatka Raid codenamed VERMONT CEDAR, 1987. VERMONT CEDAR involved a multi-carrier battlegroup, a surface action group centered on the USS Missouri, EASTERN EXPRESS strikes from Hong Kong, and special operations support from, of all branches, the Air Force.

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October 1986, actually. One historian describes it as the Navy and Air Force deciding to return the favor for Puget Sound.
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Lordroel wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:29 pm
To bad the Victor K2 was not able to refuel a Rockwell/BAe Lancer B.1 in flight, because that would be something to see.
The Lancer B.1 was modified to use the 'probe & drogue' refuelling system. So, theoretically a Victor could have refuelled one. However, I believe when they did need AAR, the RAF used Tristars. Interestingly, these days the RAF uses the 'flying boom' system to refuel its Lancers and Globemasters. The Voyager KC.1 being equipped similar to the RAAF KC-30A (see attached pic).
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Poohbah wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:10 pm
October 1986, actually. One historian describes it as the Navy and Air Force deciding to return the favor for Puget Sound.
Seems you are right, should have checked first.
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Poohbah wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:10 pm
Lordroel wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:54 pm Photo: USS Missouri (BB-63) firing main guns at dusk. Forrestal-class aircraft carrier USS Ranger (CV-61) in background undergoing underway replenishment. photo taken most likely after the end of the First Kamthatka Raid codenamed VERMONT CEDAR, 1987. VERMONT CEDAR involved a multi-carrier battlegroup, a surface action group centered on the USS Missouri, EASTERN EXPRESS strikes from Hong Kong, and special operations support from, of all branches, the Air Force.

October 1986, actually. One historian describes it as the Navy and Air Force deciding to return the favor for Puget Sound.
I think they wanted to show the Russians how it was suppose to be done.

I can't remember did any of the Russian surface fleet sortie or was it no ships were around?
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jemhouston wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:37 pm

I can't remember did any of the Russian surface fleet sortie or was it no ships were around?
I posted this over at my forum, do not know if it is canon.

Photo: A Soviet Nanuchka-class corvette burning in the the Pacific. U.S. Navy Grumman A-6E Intruder aircraft operating from one of the carriers taking part in Kamchatka Raid - VERMONT CEDAR in September, 1986 (CV-61) sank two Nanuchka-class corvettes with Rockeye cluster bombs and AGM-84 Harpoon missiles.

Nanuchka-class corvette I that was sunk

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Thank you
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There were some surface units, but most of the ships encountered were KGB Maritime Border Guards or Navy coastal forces (Said FAC (M) and FAC (Torpedo).
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