History, Politics And Current Affairs

jemhouston wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:56 pm

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:05 pm

Belushi TD wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:01 pm I am not sure how I feel about that....

Yes, the Marines (and others, if I am not mistaken) did some stellar work there, but the entire war was closer to a feces fest than anything else.

Do we have any ships named after Vietnam battles?

Belushi TD

We’ve fought a lot of feces-fest wars lately. Arguably Korea and Vietnam fit that category, and USS HUÉ CITY and USS CHOSIN commemorate awful struggles similar to Fallujah.

If anything, it’s Gulf War I that’s missing a ship commemorating it.

About the only battle I can think of is Battle of 73 Easting.

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:54 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:53 pm

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:12 pm
That was mostly Army. We don’t name Navy ships for Army battles!

USS Yorktown (CV-5) and USS Yorktown (CV-10) are named after a land battle.

USS Ticonderoga (CV-14) was named after a land battle.

USS Bunker Hill (CV-17) was named after a land battle.

USS Antietam (CV-36) was named after a land battle.

Shall i keep going.

I was joking…….

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:26 am

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:54 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:53 pm

USS Yorktown (CV-5) and USS Yorktown (CV-10) are named after a land battle.

USS Ticonderoga (CV-14) was named after a land battle.

USS Bunker Hill (CV-17) was named after a land battle.

USS Antietam (CV-36) was named after a land battle.

Shall i keep going.

I was joking…….

So was i, was thinking of adding presidents who served in the army to the list, but that would kill what i wanted to say.

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:27 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:26 am

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:54 pm

I was joking…….

So was i, was thinking of adding presidents who served in the army to the list, but that would kill what i wanted to say.

Hmmmmm

Are there more Army Presidents or Navy Presidents?

The Navy ones kept things shipshape! (Except one… )

jemhouston wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:15 am

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:27 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:26 am

So was i, was thinking of adding presidents who served in the army to the list, but that would kill what i wanted to say.

Hmmmmm

Are there more Army Presidents or Navy Presidents?

The Navy ones kept things shipshape! (Except one… )

Two, Nixon and Carter

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:40 am

jemhouston wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:15 am

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:27 pm

Hmmmmm

Are there more Army Presidents or Navy Presidents?

The Navy ones kept things shipshape! (Except one… )

Two, Nixon and Carter

We could debate Nixon.

Other Navy Presidents - JFK, Ford, Bush the Elder

Would TR being a former SecNav be a Navy or Army dude?

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:16 am
Army. TR never held a Navy commission.

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:10 am

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:16 am
Army. TR never held a Navy commission.

He did pay himself into Army service i guess.

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:16 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:10 am

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:16 am
Army. TR never held a Navy commission.

He did pay himself into Army service i guess.

Raising your own regiment is in the highest tradition of the service

Nightwatch2 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:16 pm

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:16 pm

Lordroel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:10 am
He did pay himself into Army service i guess.

Raising your own regiment is in the highest tradition of the service

Yabut he was SECNAV

So sorta Navy

Edit: Asst SECNAV before raising his own regiment!

Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:11 am After USS Fallujah, here comes the USNS Robert Ballard (T-AGS-67) .

SECNAV Del Toro Names Future Survey Ship After Titanic Discoverer Robert Ballard

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:08 am

clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:20 pm

James1978 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:52 pm True, but finding Marine battles worthy of a ship name might be the issue.
USS Kuwait International Airport doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Khafji was mostly fought by Arab allies with Marine support.

USS Khafji and USS Kuwait City would be good ones, IMO.

Concur. It’s hard to remember thirty odd years on, but we absolutely didn’t expect the absolute debacle for the Iraqis that was Desert Storm. We expected to take serious losses.

Thankfully, we were a lot better than we thought we were, and the Iraqis a lot worse.

Johnnie Re;Desert Storm 1, Best "Fn" war I ever had. Being with the SBU's on Coronado we were part of the original Speed Bump for Desert Shield.

The basket Screw Nam was my first war and Tet was my first real fight.

My most personally fulfilling Op was Prime Chance. Our opponents were mainly Swedish-built Boghammers and Boston whaler-type craft, used by the Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guards spit) to attack commercial shipping or lay mines, and Iranian oil platforms used as observation posts. The Pasdaran’s favored tactic for attacking ships was to swarm around a target and shoot at the vessel’s bridge and superstructure with 107 mm rockets, RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and machine guns. The intent was not so much to sink as to inflict as much damage as possible on the ship and crew. I really hate those Pasdaran goat screwers. I got to kill quite a few of them up close and personal. Even got to take one out with my M-1911A1 ACP. I especially liked it when their boats caught fire; served the butchering bastards right to burn.
Sort of a salve for my soul so to speak. But that's just me I'm funny that way.

Anyone here got a problem with that? well your just going to have to live with it!

OSCSSW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:21 pm

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:08 am

clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:20 pm

USS Khafji and USS Kuwait City would be good ones, IMO.

Concur. It’s hard to remember thirty odd years on, but we absolutely didn’t expect the absolute debacle for the Iraqis that was Desert Storm. We expected to take serious losses.

Thankfully, we were a lot better than we thought we were, and the Iraqis a lot worse.

Johnnie Re;Desert Storm 1, Best "Fn" war I ever had. Being with the SBU's on Coronado we were part of the original Speed Bump for Desert Shield.

The basket Screw Nam was my first war and Tet was my first real fight.

My most personally fulfilling Op was Prime Chance. Our opponents were mainly Swedish-built Boghammers and Boston whaler-type craft, used by the Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guards spit) to attack commercial shipping or lay mines, and Iranian oil platforms used as observation posts. The Pasdaran’s favored tactic for attacking ships was to swarm around a target and shoot at the vessel’s bridge and superstructure with 107 mm rockets, RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and machine guns. The intent was not so much to sink as to inflict as much damage as possible on the ship and crew. I really hate those Pasdaran goat screwers. I got to kill quite a few of them up close and personal. Even got to take one out with my M-1911A1 ACP. I especially liked it when their boats caught fire; served the butchering bastards right to burn.
Sort of a salve for my soul so to speak. But that's just me I'm funny that way.

Anyone here got a problem with that? well your just going to have to live with it!

OSCSSW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:21 pm

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:08 am

clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:20 pm

USS Khafji and USS Kuwait City would be good ones, IMO.

Concur. It’s hard to remember thirty odd years on, but we absolutely didn’t expect the absolute debacle for the Iraqis that was Desert Storm. We expected to take serious losses.

Thankfully, we were a lot better than we thought we were, and the Iraqis a lot worse.

Johnnie Re;Desert Storm 1, Best "Fn" war I ever had. Being with the SBU's on Coronado we were part of the original Speed Bump for Desert Shield.

The basket Screw Nam was my first war and Tet was my first real fight.

My most personally fulfilling Op was Prime Chance. Our opponents were mainly Swedish-built Boghammers and Boston whaler-type craft, used by the Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guards spit) to attack commercial shipping or lay mines, and Iranian oil platforms used as observation posts. The Pasdaran’s favored tactic for attacking ships was to swarm around a target and shoot at the vessel’s bridge and superstructure with 107 mm rockets, RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and machine guns. The intent was not so much to sink as to inflict as much damage as possible on the ship and crew. I really hate those Pasdaran goat screwers. I got to kill quite a few of them up close and personal. Even got to take one out with my M-1911A1 ACP. I especially liked it when their boats caught fire; served the butchering bastards right to burn.
Sort of a salve for my soul so to speak. But that's just me I'm funny that way.

Anyone here got a problem with that? well your just going to have to live with it!

MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 1:35 pm

OSCSSW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:21 pm

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:08 am
Concur. It’s hard to remember thirty odd years on, but we absolutely didn’t expect the absolute debacle for the Iraqis that was Desert Storm. We expected to take serious losses.

Thankfully, we were a lot better than we thought we were, and the Iraqis a lot worse.

Johnnie Re;Desert Storm 1, Best "Fn" war I ever had. Being with the SBU's on Coronado we were part of the original Speed Bump for Desert Shield.

The basket Screw Nam was my first war and Tet was my first real fight.

My most personally fulfilling Op was Prime Chance. Our opponents were mainly Swedish-built Boghammers and Boston whaler-type craft, used by the Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guards spit) to attack commercial shipping or lay mines, and Iranian oil platforms used as observation posts. The Pasdaran’s favored tactic for attacking ships was to swarm around a target and shoot at the vessel’s bridge and superstructure with 107 mm rockets, RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and machine guns. The intent was not so much to sink as to inflict as much damage as possible on the ship and crew. I really hate those Pasdaran goat screwers. I got to kill quite a few of them up close and personal. Even got to take one out with my M-1911A1 ACP. I especially liked it when their boats caught fire; served the butchering bastards right to burn.
Sort of a salve for my soul so to speak. But that's just me I'm funny that way.

Anyone here got a problem with that? well your just going to have to live with it!

Senior Chief,

I'm adding that to the many reasons the drinks are all on me next time we meet.

Mike

Mike I'm your man. Never let it be said I let a good man drink alone, especially when he is buying:lol: