So they had to do with the Mirages, also i assume they suffered war losses and regular none war related along the way.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 5:19 am They got a squadron's worth, with the balance of the order delivered-along with a second order-after the war.
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The one squadron with Hornets deployed to the Pacific NW with the ANZAC force.
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Operating along side Canadian F-18s i assume.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:36 am The one squadron with Hornets deployed to the Pacific NW with the ANZAC force.
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So with Syria having changed hands and now Iran going to collapse, not going to do them in Red Dawn.
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In this Timeline, Iran and Syria are still the Middle East Coalition-though they, of course, don't call themselves that. And Hezbollah is still a concern-and btw, Bibi is not the Israeli PM (he's in jail on corruption charges).
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I thought we had Syria’s rebellion succeeding as IRL?
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So on with discussing of being grand parants and retirements.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:02 am In this Timeline, Iran and Syria are still the Middle East Coalition-though they, of course, don't call themselves that. And Hezbollah is still a concern-and btw, Bibi is not the Israeli PM (he's in jail on corruption charges).
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Matt, did EASTERN EXPRESS also drop Mark 60 CAPTOR (encapsulated torpedo) anti-submarine mines.
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Yes, they did, along with mining the shipping routes from Vladivostok through the Kuriles to Kamchatka. Mainly the Kuriles for the anti-shipping mines. The channels used by Soviet subs got the CAPTORs.
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Did the Soviets also do the same thing, i searched but found no Soviet version of CAPTORs.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:24 am Yes, they did, along with mining the shipping routes from Vladivostok through the Kuriles to Kamchatka. Mainly the Kuriles for the anti-shipping mines. The channels used by Soviet subs got the CAPTORs.
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They did, with Backfires from Alaska (Adak and Anchorage) going down to Seattle, the Mouth of the Columbia River (ships can sail upriver to Lewiston, ID), and even the SF Bay area with a reduced load. Soviet subs did minelaying as well-using old Whiskey and newer Foxtrot-class boats for that mission as they were expendable.
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Can we use the OTL Sea Wolf class as a stand in for the Grayling-class nuclear-powered fast attack submarines (SSN).
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I thought that was the IRL Virginia-class…
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As per the submarine facht file:
The first postwar submarine, Grayling and her sisters are a less expensive replacement for the cancelled SSN-21 class. They incorporated technologies developed for that program as well as wartime lessons learned; the different blocks have evolved over time but the basic design remains in production to this day. Construction is planned to accelerate as 688 class boats are retired.
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Would the same “21st Century Mania” infest the hull number scheme, or would they stick to the regular number series?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:53 amAs per the submarine facht file:
The first postwar submarine, Grayling and her sisters are a less expensive replacement for the cancelled SSN-21 class. They incorporated technologies developed for that program as well as wartime lessons learned; the different blocks have evolved over time but the basic design remains in production to this day. Construction is planned to accelerate as 688 class boats are retired.
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The fachtfile has them start with: USS Grayling (SSN-800), Block I.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:25 amWould the same “21st Century Mania” infest the hull number scheme, or would they stick to the regular number series?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:53 amAs per the submarine facht file:
The first postwar submarine, Grayling and her sisters are a less expensive replacement for the cancelled SSN-21 class. They incorporated technologies developed for that program as well as wartime lessons learned; the different blocks have evolved over time but the basic design remains in production to this day. Construction is planned to accelerate as 688 class boats are retired.
So the 800-series it is.
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Presumably SSN 774-799 were LOS ANGELES class to replace war losses?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:45 amThe fachtfile has them start with: USS Grayling (SSN-800), Block I.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:25 amWould the same “21st Century Mania” infest the hull number scheme, or would they stick to the regular number series?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:53 am
As per the submarine facht file:
The first postwar submarine, Grayling and her sisters are a less expensive replacement for the cancelled SSN-21 class. They incorporated technologies developed for that program as well as wartime lessons learned; the different blocks have evolved over time but the basic design remains in production to this day. Construction is planned to accelerate as 688 class boats are retired.
So the 800-series it is.
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Please tell me someone somewhere adopted this for the SSN-800Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:45 amThe fachtfile has them start with: USS Grayling (SSN-800), Block I.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:25 amWould the same “21st Century Mania” infest the hull number scheme, or would they stick to the regular number series?Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:53 am
As per the submarine facht file:
The first postwar submarine, Grayling and her sisters are a less expensive replacement for the cancelled SSN-21 class. They incorporated technologies developed for that program as well as wartime lessons learned; the different blocks have evolved over time but the basic design remains in production to this day. Construction is planned to accelerate as 688 class boats are retired.
So the 800-series it is.
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You know it will be a World War IV story if it ever get made in this universe.jemhouston wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:01 amPlease tell me someone somewhere adopted this for the SSN-800Lordroel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:45 amThe fachtfile has them start with: USS Grayling (SSN-800), Block I.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:25 am
Would the same “21st Century Mania” infest the hull number scheme, or would they stick to the regular number series?
So the 800-series it is.
T-800
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According to the USN Fact File, the Graylings were SSN-800 onward. That file is canon.
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