Art & Image Thread
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They still had enough at the end to keep sinking ships in both the Atlantic and Pacific. Admiral Chernavin (Commander, Soviet Navy and Gorshkov's successor) got what he wanted from Marshal Akhromayev when the latter became Defense Minister: more resources allocated to submarine and surface-ship construction. Were they producing enough to make up for the horrible attrition? No, but enough that the Red Navy was still a player at the end.
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And a sub-hunter: USS Kidd (DDG-995) underway to join a convoy, late 1986:
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OOC: Can this be considers canon:
Photo: With the destruction of the Argentine Navy main naval base by a Royal Navy fired Polaris SLBM on Puerto Belgrano Naval Base and an adjacent Argentine city and the Chilean-Argentine War of 1986 when Chile took advantages and successfully invaded the Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands a Argentine leftist guerrilla movement in 1986 to 1989 was formed called the Movimiento Todos por la Patria (English: All for the Homeland Movement) who advocated to overthrow the Argentina government and to join Soviet Union in their war against the United Kingdom and United States. Several attacks happen in the 1986 to 1991 period, among them is the 1989 attack on La Tablada barracks where members of Movimiento Todos por la Patria (MTP) attacked the military barracks in La Tablada, in Buenos Aires Province, Argentina.

Photo: With the destruction of the Argentine Navy main naval base by a Royal Navy fired Polaris SLBM on Puerto Belgrano Naval Base and an adjacent Argentine city and the Chilean-Argentine War of 1986 when Chile took advantages and successfully invaded the Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands a Argentine leftist guerrilla movement in 1986 to 1989 was formed called the Movimiento Todos por la Patria (English: All for the Homeland Movement) who advocated to overthrow the Argentina government and to join Soviet Union in their war against the United Kingdom and United States. Several attacks happen in the 1986 to 1991 period, among them is the 1989 attack on La Tablada barracks where members of Movimiento Todos por la Patria (MTP) attacked the military barracks in La Tablada, in Buenos Aires Province, Argentina.

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Photo: Argentinian Army, Lieutenant Colonel Aldo Rico during the failed 1987 Argentine coup d'état where he led soldiers of the three armed forces, among them the Grupo Albatros (Albatross Group), a special operations service of the Prefectura Naval Argentina in trying to overthrow the already weaken Argentina Civil Government.


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Photo: a Soviet K-228, a Yankee Class SSBN submarine proceeding out of UK waters on the surface, as per the Armistice terms with Type 22 frigate HMS Glamorgan (D19) in the background, October 1989.

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Might’ve been a Raven conversion…
An ELINT conversion is the only reason I can think of for why a YANKEE-class would be stooging around in British waters, because it’s SLBMs are equivalent to the Polaris missile in range…
An ELINT conversion is the only reason I can think of for why a YANKEE-class would be stooging around in British waters, because it’s SLBMs are equivalent to the Polaris missile in range…
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What's the minimum range on them. It might have been station for decapitation attack on the UK and France.
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Keeping a eye on the convoys to and from the United States and United Kingdom, a cruise missile version ore could it be a Spetznatz mother ship.
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YANKEE Notch, instead of YANKEE I/II? It’s possible, but not K-228, that one’s a YANKEE I.
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At least one Yankee class was converted to a special-ops boat...
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Re: Art & Image Thread
There was no Type 22 called Glamorgan. D19 was the pendant number of the County class destroyer, HMS Glamorgan. It's difficult to say from that photo, but it does look like a Type 22 Batch 1. Which means that it would be either HMS Broadsword (F88), HMS Battleaxe (F89), or HMS Brilliant (F90) (HMS Brazen (F91) was CTL by the end of the war).
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If Wikipedia is to be believed, it wasn’t K-228.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 6:16 am At least one Yankee class was converted to a special-ops boat...
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Could there be a different reason why she came to the surface, maybe here crew received reports of what happen at home and here captain not wanting some die hard Soviet Crew members taking here over decided to surface.Wolfman wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 2:02 pmIf Wikipedia is to be believed, it wasn’t K-228.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 6:16 am At least one Yankee class was converted to a special-ops boat...
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An over abundance of caution? That could work, because it wouldn’t be the first time that a riot had broken out aboard a Soviet submarine. The Hunt for Red October (the novel, not the movie) mentions such an incident aboard an Echo-class SSGN…Lordroel wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 2:09 pmCould there be a different reason why she came to the surface, maybe here crew received reports of what happen at home and here captain not wanting some die hard Soviet Crew members taking here over decided to surface.Wolfman wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 2:02 pmIf Wikipedia is to be believed, it wasn’t K-228.Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 6:16 am At least one Yankee class was converted to a special-ops boat...
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Photo: a British Harrier crashed after being hit by Soviet AA during the liberation of Gibraltar in 1986, the pilot managed to eject and landed in Spain where he was interred by Spanish Authorities.

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Are we sure that that’s not the Spanish version of the Harrier, the AV-8S Matador?
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How can you tell.
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Okay, first off, I was asking a question, secondly, it doesn’t look like a Sea Harrier FRS.1, and finally, while the image is in black and white, it looks like the plane is in Spanish Navy colors and markings (such as can be seen)… if you look up the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first image in the article is of an AV-8S Matador in flight, and the markings I can see in the posted image seem to match the image on Wikipedia, though not the exact aircraft…
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A okay, thanks for the answer.Wolfman wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 6:44 pm Okay, first off, I was asking a question, secondly, it doesn’t look like a Sea Harrier FRS.1, and finally, while the image is in black and white, it looks like the plane is in Spanish Navy colors and markings (such as can be seen)… if you look up the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first image in the article is of an AV-8S Matador in flight, and the markings I can see in the posted image seem to match the image on Wikipedia, though not the exact aircraft…
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I missed a couple of words in my last reply, the article I was referring to is the Wikipedia article about the Hawker Siddeley Harrier.
“For a brick, he flew pretty good!” Sgt. Major A.J. Johnson, Halo 2
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