General Discussion Thread

[jemhouston]

I'm wonder how often Belize and Guatemala play Wack-a-mole with the rebels crossing their borders. I doubt either of them support them.

[Sukhoiman]

I'd imagine it boils down to how much they have fronted/invested so far to their border cops/police and so on. The basic wherewithal in the end.

What you don't have available, is the void you have in reality to deal with such things.

[Bernard Woolley]

I'm wonder how often Belize and Guatemala play Wack-a-mole with the rebels crossing their borders. I doubt either of them support them.

There’s still British Forces Belize to help them out with that sort of thing if needed.

[Poohbah]

Not illustrated because they don't actually control any territory: People's Santerist Liberation Front.

Their politics are Voodoo-Marxist: they believe in communal ownership of the spirit world and human sacrifice. (They sometimes eat the sacrifices.) Everyone (Mexican government and all other rebel factions) agree on principle that the only good Santerist is a dead Santerist (but please don't eat them).

They're mostly known for going into battle wired up on a cocktail of ice and dancer, which makes them inhumanly fast, utterly fearless, and completely psychotic.

[Matt Wiser]

Everyone also hates the Zapatistas. Then there's all the minor groups that range from supporters of the regime that ended with the Baja War (the late GS Ayala's people), to those who are virulently Anti-Communist ("We don't have a scorched earth policy, we have a scorched Communist policy).

[Poohbah]

Everyone also hates the Zapatistas. Then there's all the minor groups that range from supporters of the regime that ended with the Baja War (the late GS Ayala's people), to those who are virulently Anti-Communist ("We don't have a scorched earth policy, we have a scorched Communist policy).

Supporters of GA Ayala: both of them?

[Matt Wiser]

There's enough around to cause some mischief. The PLDP (which is NOT Popular, Liberal, or Democratic) got rid of the pre-Baja War Politburo and most of Ayala's faction in the Central Committee, but not all of them posed for rifle fire.

[Lordroel]

Okay tried my best using what information i could find, any corrections i would like to hear so i can improve the map.

Posted by Matt Wisser over at the Images Of Kara's First Day: Pictures Of Red Dawn's WW3 And The Aftermath on AH.com thread related to the Former Soviet Union:

Western Russia also included Belorussia. They signed a union treaty so that the Russian Republic could get a UN seat... The Rump Soviet State included Moscow, while the FER had Russia East of the Urals. Now all of European Russia is in the Russian Republic, The Stans and the Republics in the Caucasus are independent, along with Moldova, Ukraine, and the Baltic States. They get along for the most part, but things do get hot once in a while.

Georgia is independent. It's one of the Caucasus Republics that, after the end of the Civil War, wound up with not-so-friendly neighbors (the Rump USSR to the North, Armenia and Azerbaijan south and east. But events in that part of the world only make the news on a slow day.

Posted by Matt Wisser over at HPCA (Red Dawn + 20):

The Second Russian Civil War began the same day the Armistice took effect: 14 Oct 89. It ended in June of 1993 when the Rump Soviet State was forced to acknowledge the independence of the former Republics, the Russian Republic, and the Far East Republic. Skirmishing between several of them continued off and on until May of 2010, and the final act of the USSR's existence, when they foolishly picked a fight with the four largest all at once: Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and the Far East Republic. Their use of tactical nuclear weapons and an attempted strategic attack with SLBMS on both the UK and the U.S. resulted in both SAC and RAF Strike Command taking out Red ICBM Launch Control Centers and nuclear weapon storage, either conventionally with GBU-28 or with either ALCMs, SRAM-II, or B-61 and WE-177 gravity bombs. And someone-believed to be the FER, used an SS-20 to destroy a Red Biowarfare Facility. While at least one Red SSBN was destroyed with a Sea Lance NDB. Then several Soviet Generals decided enough was enough, and arrested the Politburo and brought an end to the conflict. While the end of the North Korean regime that same night has been called by some a separate conflict, it really wasn't.

Map of the Former Soviet Union, before the fall of the Rump Soviet Union in 2010:

(Yellow) Far Eastern Republic, one of three major countries that came after the end of the Second Russian Civil War in 1993, capitol located in Vladivostok.

(Blue) Japan and Kuril Islands, transferred over by the Far Eastern Republic, Japan is the biggest supporter of the Far Eastern Republic.

(Red) what is left of the Soviet Union also going by the name Rump Soviet Union. Capitol is located in Moscow.

(Green) Russian Republic, made up of Europe Russia and Belarusia. Capitol is located in Saint Petersburg.

(Pink) countries that became independent following the end the Second Russian Civil War in 1993.

(Brown) People's Republic of China (Manchuria). is still run by the PLA; though as a military junta with nominal control from what's left of the CCP. The generals run things, not the Party bosses. Relations with the U.S, Japan, and most Western nations are correct, but are ice-cold with both the Far East Republic and the Republic of Korea due to outstanding (and in the ROK, invented) border disputes. They also claim to be the "real" government of China, but no one outside Manchuria-least of all Taipei-listens. Attempts to regain the UN seat have been rebuffed. Border skirmishes (usually on the platoon or company level) with the FER are common.

[jemhouston]

As Tom Clancy has pointed out, ever major war in the 20th Century, the side that started the war lost it.

[Poohbah]

As Tom Clancy has pointed out, ever major war in the 20th Century, the side that started the war lost it.

They fornicated in a circular fashion and gained enlightenment.

[Wolfman]

As Tom Clancy has pointed out, ever major war in the 20th Century, the side that started the war lost it.

They fornicated in a circular fashion and gained enlightenment.

Otherwise known as frakking around and finding out…

[Matt Wiser]

A Postwar study of the Wolverines' Insurgency after the Invasion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYrleoLU--A

[Wolfman]

A Postwar study of the Wolverines' Insurgency after the Invasion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYrleoLU--A

Ahh, the Templin Institute… when they’re on target, they’re good, and then there’s the sci-fi and fantasy stuff they put out… and then they wonder why people don’t take them seriously…