SpaceX 2024

[Nathan45]

Honestly, I'm getting excited about Mars. I was born too late for Apollo, but the possibility of being on Mars in my lifespan is looking very likely. Good thing to be optimistic for.

[Rocket J Squrriel]

California officials reject more SpaceX rocket launches, with some citing Musk's X posts

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ca ... r-AA1s6Zsb

Given some of the reasoning, the commission needs whammed upside the head.

Among the issues raised by some commission members were Musk's decision to insert himself in the presidential race, his spreading of conspiracy theories the labor record of his companies, and derogatory comments he's made about the transgender community.

"We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," said Commissioner Chair Caryl Hart.

Well, they're just looking for SpaceX First Amendment lawsuit that has a very good chance of winning. In NRA of America v. Vullo (22-842), the Supreme Court said specifically that the use of coercion by public officials to punish entities for their advocacy was unacceptable. Remarkably, the vote was 9-0and the opinion by Sotomayor. Edit- Actually, the precedent should be Bantam Books vs Sullivan (372 US 58) from 1963 that is directly applicable.

While this one is slightly different, the commission is acting according to the company founder's words unrelated to SpaceX, without even a figleaf of saying that there are problems with the application.

Its also unclear if the commission can even force USAF not to allow SpaceX to fly since its a military base and military contracts.

[brovane]

Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

[Poohbah]

Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

[brovane]

Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

Kind of funny that the state only decided to change things after Disney expressed a political opinion that the state didn't like.

[Poohbah]

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

Kind of funny that the state only decided to change things after Disney expressed a political opinion that the state didn't like.

True, but utterly irrelevant. RCID was a huge pile of special privileges granted to Walt Disney Corporation, and nobody else. Those privileges could be revoked at the discretion of the state Legislature and the Governor (or, if they pissed off enough of both houses, at the discretion of the Legislature alone). They could do it if Disney publicly dissed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Anita Freaking Bryant.

But there's a bright side to this, and a moral. I think morals are good for you, I love morals, and the moral of this story is: If you're walkin' on eggs, don't hop.

[brovane]

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

Kind of funny that the state only decided to change things after Disney expressed a political opinion that the state didn't like.

True, but utterly irrelevant. RCID was a huge pile of special privileges granted to Walt Disney Corporation, and nobody else. Those privileges could be revoked at the discretion of the state Legislature and the Governor (or, if they pissed off enough of both houses, at the discretion of the Legislature alone). They could do it if Disney publicly dissed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Anita Freaking Bryant.

But there's a bright side to this, and a moral. I think morals are good for you, I love morals, and the moral of this story is: If you're walkin' on eggs, don't hop.

I consider it very relevant. Which leads us back the start of this. The government going after a individual or company because that entity expressed a opinion that the government doesn't like is not something that should be done regardless of the party affiliation.

I hope that Musk sticks it to the California Coastal Commission in court.

[brovane]

Just as I suspected, the head of the US space council cannot be bothered to acknowledge the achievement of SpaceX on Sunday.

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[Micael]

Honestly, I'm getting excited about Mars. I was born too late for Apollo, but the possibility of being on Mars in my lifespan is looking very likely. Good thing to be optimistic for.

My feelings exactly. I would really like to experience humans landing on Mars.

[brovane]

The level of accuracy(control authority) shown by SpaceX in landing the Super Heavy is incredible.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966756579627167

[kdahm]

The level of accuracy(control authority) shown by SpaceX in landing the Super Heavy is incredible.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966756579627167

And of course, no one has considered that centimeter accuracy can't be devoted to re-entry vehicles, greatly reducing the CEP. No cans of instant Sunshine needed, just a few tens of tons of ordinary stuff.

Of course, if a country can put a conventional object into a 2m circle from halfway around the world, a can of Instant Sunshine makes everything better.

[Poohbah]

The level of accuracy(control authority) shown by SpaceX in landing the Super Heavy is incredible.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966756579627167

And of course, no one has considered that centimeter accuracy can't be devoted to re-entry vehicles, greatly reducing the CEP. No cans of instant Sunshine needed, just a few tens of tons of ordinary stuff.

Of course, if a country can put a conventional object into a 2m circle from halfway around the world, a can of Instant Sunshine makes everything better.

Instant Sunshine®, for those times when you need to make those unclean heretical foreigners truly see the light (however briefly).

(Instant Sunshine is a registered trademark of Los Alamos National Laboratory.)

[Micael]

Raptor engine #314 ”Pi Raptor” has a special marking.

[jemhouston]

Raptor engine #314 ”Pi Raptor” has a special marking.

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[Micael]

NEWS: NASA will use @SpaceX Crew Dragon for its two crew rotation missions to the International Space Station in 2025.

NASA had hoped Boeing Starliner would be certified in time to fly but continues to evaluate if it will require another test flight after recent fail.

[Rocket J Squrriel]

One report is that they might use Starliner as an up/down cargo carrier.

[brovane]

I just got done reading Eric Berger's book "Re-entry" which covers SpaceX from the first Falcon-1 successful flight up to about 2021-2022. His book for the earlier history of SpaceX called "Lift-off" covers SpaceX from it's beginning to it's first Falcon-1 flight. After I got done reading the book, I was kind of stunned to read some of the behind the scenes stuff at SpaceX. Especially the decision to go full propulsive landing for the Falcon-9 recovery. It was basically Musk insisting that it needed to happen over his engineer's objection. The same thing with the decision to use densified propellant, it was Musk pushing for it. A real good read.

In other news, I got to admit that sometimes Newson surprises me. I didn't expect this from him but it is true, the commission has way overstepped it's bounds. Good for him, a broken clock can be right twice a day.

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[jemhouston]

Newsom is setting up his 2028 campaign for President. Expect him to appear on FNC more and probably less friendly media outlets and podcasts.

If one thing VP Harris has proven, you can't just deal with friendly media. You have to be ready to get hit by nonfriendly voices. Given his performance against DeSantis, he has a way to go.

[Rocket J Squrriel]

In a speech Musk told a story about the the tests the government made SpaceX about the safety of Starship if they launch from Vandenberg...

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1847808836234797418

"SpaceX had to do a study to see if Starship would hit a shark. I'm like "It's a big ocean, there's a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely." OK fine, we'll do it, but we need the data, can you give us the Shark data?

They said no.

They said they could give the data to their Western division but they don't trust them.

We're like, 'Is this a comedy?' Eventually we got the data, and the sharks were going to be fine.

We thought we were done.

But then they hit us with: 'Well, what about whales?"

When you look at the Pacific, how many whales do you see? Honestly, if we did hit a whale, the whale had it coming, because the odds are so low. It's like Final Destination: whale edition.

So then we had to do the WHALE analysis.

It goes on and on.

They said, what if the rocket goes underwater and explodes and the whales get hearing damage?

Umm, If we could make a rocket go underwater and become a submarine, that would be a feat of physics that we could not accomplish.

It's just one crazy thing after another.

So yes, I really feel the pain of Government overregulation."

He also has a story about....

"I will tell the story of how SpaceX was forced by the government to kidnap seals, put earphones on them and play sonic boom sounds to see if they seemed upset"

There is a picture out there now that may or may not real but its so absurd that its believable.

[Nightwatch2]

In a speech Musk told a story about the the tests the government made SpaceX about the safety of Starship if they launch from Vandenberg...

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1847808836234797418

"SpaceX had to do a study to see if Starship would hit a shark. I'm like "It's a big ocean, there's a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely." OK fine, we'll do it, but we need the data, can you give us the Shark data?

They said no.

They said they could give the data to their Western division but they don't trust them.

We're like, 'Is this a comedy?' Eventually we got the data, and the sharks were going to be fine.

We thought we were done.

But then they hit us with: 'Well, what about whales?"

When you look at the Pacific, how many whales do you see? Honestly, if we did hit a whale, the whale had it coming, because the odds are so low. It's like Final Destination: whale edition.

So then we had to do the WHALE analysis.

It goes on and on.

They said, what if the rocket goes underwater and explodes and the whales get hearing damage?

Umm, If we could make a rocket go underwater and become a submarine, that would be a feat of physics that we could not accomplish.

It's just one crazy thing after another.

So yes, I really feel the pain of Government overregulation."

He also has a story about....

"I will tell the story of how SpaceX was forced by the government to kidnap seals, put earphones on them and play sonic boom sounds to see if they seemed upset"

There is a picture out there now that may or may not real but its so absurd that its believable.

That is so incredibly stupid that it has to be true.

The California Coastal Commission in action



I’m reminded of some of the hoops we had to jump through to set up the NASAMS in the NCR IADS. But that’s a story for another time….