Roman Concrete
Yes, more Roman engineering. It's evidently required for men of my age.
Michael Hooten
Jun 18, 2024
The dome of the Pantheon seen from below. Built without modern technology like electricity or internal combustion engines. And it’s looked like that for almost two thousand years.
Since we talked last time about the Roman baths, let’s continue the theme (since evidently men of my age are required to think about ancient Rome at least once a day), and talk about Roman concrete.
I got to visit Rome many years ago and got to see the Pantheon in person. At the time, I was impressed mostly because of its age. It has survived nearly two thousand years, despite all the wars and general disruptions during that time.
But then you think about the fact that the dome is made from unreinforced concrete, and suddenly we’re dealing with something that no one has been able to duplicate.
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Quick explanation: modern concrete structures are made stronger by reinforcing the concrete internally, often with steel rods called rebar. This allows us to build tall columns and long bridges, at a much larger scale than what the Romans managed.
Except for one small detail: our structures tend to start crumbling after about twenty to thirty years and require regular maintenance to remain structurally sound. The Pantheon is 142 feet in diameter, and its maximum height from the floor is the same, weighs nearly 5000 tons, and has no support other than the building it rests on. And the routine maintenance, from a historical perspective, is quite nearly zero.
To be fair, there is more to the Pantheon’s dome than just poured concrete. The architecture has denser, thicker concrete on the outer edges, becoming thinner and lighter towards the middle. In some ways it represents the apex of Roman engineering and architecture and has been regarded as such for centuries.
Now consider all the other structures built during the height of the Roman Empire, and how many of them, though in ruins, are still recognizable. Many of them are built from concrete similar to the Pantheon, and most of what remains has been around for so long that the destruction is hard to blame on just the ravages of time.
Our modern concrete is based on the old Roman recipe, but doesn’t last nearly as long, even with reinforcement. We fill the cracks in our roadways with tar to keep water from getting in and making the cracks worse. With reinforced concrete this is especially important, since water will cause the steel to rust, weakening the structure. We even design simple things, like driveways, to crack along stress lines but are unsurprised when other cracks appear. For comparison, a driveway is anywhere from two to four inches in thickness. The top of the Pantheon’s dome, at its thinnest, is almost four feet thick.
As our technology has improved, so has our ability to examine what the Romans used in greater detail, and we discovered that the most durable Roman concrete used cement made from lime and volcanic ash, but just mixing it in proper proportions did not give the same result. It wasn’t until last year that scientists at MIT discovered the secret: mixing the ingredients at high temperatures.
Here’s the amazing part: this was all developed by the Romans over hundreds of years, where trial and error gave them their most enduring data, not detailed chemical analysis. And a stable culture allowed that knowledge to be passed down for even more hundreds of years. When that stability went away, so did the knowledge, even though the scraps of what remained allowed us to come up with something similar.
The moral of the story: never assume the past was ignorant or primitive. There are things we can still learn from ancient engineers.
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Lots of bull in that article.
Every time we make a gravity arch dam, we do the same thing on a much grander scale. Making structures where the concrete is only in compression is trivial, it just takes the architects to agree that it looks good and to accept the compromises on the amount of potential floor area taken up by the structure.But then you think about the fact that the dome is made from unreinforced concrete, and suddenly we’re dealing with something that no one has been able to duplicate.
We use steel reinforcing to reduce the amount of concrete needed and to carry the tension forces. We use asphalt sealers in the cracks to keep the water from getting into and softening the soils underneath the paving, not for anything in the concrete. Driveways crack along stress lines because they're put into tension, and Roman concrete would do exactly the same thing in the same application. It wouldn't crack if it were put in compression and maintained that way for life. Four inches is the absolute minimum for a driveway, and someone who wants it to last forever can always pay to have it 12 inches or 24 inches thick.Our modern concrete is based on the old Roman recipe, but doesn’t last nearly as long, even with reinforcement. We fill the cracks in our roadways with tar to keep water from getting in and making the cracks worse. With reinforced concrete this is especially important, since water will cause the steel to rust, weakening the structure. We even design simple things, like driveways, to crack along stress lines but are unsurprised when other cracks appear. For comparison, a driveway is anywhere from two to four inches in thickness. The top of the Pantheon’s dome, at its thinnest, is almost four feet thick.
True, but the selection of data to present the moral was absolutely horrible and on a middle school level of understanding.The moral of the story: never assume the past was ignorant or primitive. There are things we can still learn from ancient engineers.
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Good points. He's some sort of smoke doctor, not a mechie.
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We've been pretty sure why Roman concrete lasts as long as it does for about a year and a half now.
https://news.mit.edu/2023/roman-concret ... casts-0106
https://news.mit.edu/2023/roman-concret ... casts-0106
Belushi TDRiddle solved: Why was Roman concrete so durable?
An unexpected ancient manufacturing strategy may hold the key to designing concrete that lasts for millennia.
David L. Chandler | MIT News Office
Publication Date:January 6, 2023
PRESS INQUIRIES
The ancient Romans were masters of engineering, constructing vast networks of roads, aqueducts, ports, and massive buildings, whose remains have survived for two millennia. Many of these structures were built with concrete: Rome’s famed Pantheon, which has the world’s largest unreinforced concrete dome and was dedicated in 128 C.E., is still intact, and some ancient Roman aqueducts still deliver water to Rome today. Meanwhile, many modern concrete structures have crumbled after a few decades.
Researchers have spent decades trying to figure out the secret of this ultradurable ancient construction material, particularly in structures that endured especially harsh conditions, such as docks, sewers, and seawalls, or those constructed in seismically active locations.
Now, a team of investigators from MIT, Harvard University, and laboratories in Italy and Switzerland, has made progress in this field, discovering ancient concrete-manufacturing strategies that incorporated several key self-healing functionalities. The findings are published today in the journal Science Advances, in a paper by MIT professor of civil and environmental engineering Admir Masic, former doctoral student Linda Seymour ’14, PhD ’21, and four others.
For many years, researchers have assumed that the key to the ancient concrete’s durability was based on one ingredient: pozzolanic material such as volcanic ash from the area of Pozzuoli, on the Bay of Naples. This specific kind of ash was even shipped all across the vast Roman empire to be used in construction, and was described as a key ingredient for concrete in accounts by architects and historians at the time.
Under closer examination, these ancient samples also contain small, distinctive, millimeter-scale bright white mineral features, which have been long recognized as a ubiquitous component of Roman concretes. These white chunks, often referred to as “lime clasts,” originate from lime, another key component of the ancient concrete mix. “Ever since I first began working with ancient Roman concrete, I’ve always been fascinated by these features,” says Masic. “These are not found in modern concrete formulations, so why are they present in these ancient materials?”
Previously disregarded as merely evidence of sloppy mixing practices, or poor-quality raw materials, the new study suggests that these tiny lime clasts gave the concrete a previously unrecognized self-healing capability. “The idea that the presence of these lime clasts was simply attributed to low quality control always bothered me,” says Masic. “If the Romans put so much effort into making an outstanding construction material, following all of the detailed recipes that had been optimized over the course of many centuries, why would they put so little effort into ensuring the production of a well-mixed final product? There has to be more to this story.”
Upon further characterization of these lime clasts, using high-resolution multiscale imaging and chemical mapping techniques pioneered in Masic’s research lab, the researchers gained new insights into the potential functionality of these lime clasts.
Historically, it had been assumed that when lime was incorporated into Roman concrete, it was first combined with water to form a highly reactive paste-like material, in a process known as slaking. But this process alone could not account for the presence of the lime clasts. Masic wondered: “Was it possible that the Romans might have actually directly used lime in its more reactive form, known as quicklime?”
Studying samples of this ancient concrete, he and his team determined that the white inclusions were, indeed, made out of various forms of calcium carbonate. And spectroscopic examination provided clues that these had been formed at extreme temperatures, as would be expected from the exothermic reaction produced by using quicklime instead of, or in addition to, the slaked lime in the mixture. Hot mixing, the team has now concluded, was actually the key to the super-durable nature.
“The benefits of hot mixing are twofold,” Masic says. “First, when the overall concrete is heated to high temperatures, it allows chemistries that are not possible if you only used slaked lime, producing high-temperature-associated compounds that would not otherwise form. Second, this increased temperature significantly reduces curing and setting times since all the reactions are accelerated, allowing for much faster construction.”
During the hot mixing process, the lime clasts develop a characteristically brittle nanoparticulate architecture, creating an easily fractured and reactive calcium source, which, as the team proposed, could provide a critical self-healing functionality. As soon as tiny cracks start to form within the concrete, they can preferentially travel through the high-surface-area lime clasts. This material can then react with water, creating a calcium-saturated solution, which can recrystallize as calcium carbonate and quickly fill the crack, or react with pozzolanic materials to further strengthen the composite material. These reactions take place spontaneously and therefore automatically heal the cracks before they spread. Previous support for this hypothesis was found through the examination of other Roman concrete samples that exhibited calcite-filled cracks.
To prove that this was indeed the mechanism responsible for the durability of the Roman concrete, the team produced samples of hot-mixed concrete that incorporated both ancient and modern formulations, deliberately cracked them, and then ran water through the cracks. Sure enough: Within two weeks the cracks had completely healed and the water could no longer flow. An identical chunk of concrete made without quicklime never healed, and the water just kept flowing through the sample. As a result of these successful tests, the team is working to commercialize this modified cement material.
“It’s exciting to think about how these more durable concrete formulations could expand not only the service life of these materials, but also how it could improve the durability of 3D-printed concrete formulations,” says Masic.
Through the extended functional lifespan and the development of lighter-weight concrete forms, he hopes that these efforts could help reduce the environmental impact of cement production, which currently accounts for about 8 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Along with other new formulations, such as concrete that can actually absorb carbon dioxide from the air, another current research focus of the Masic lab, these improvements could help to reduce concrete’s global climate impact.
The research team included Janille Maragh at MIT, Paolo Sabatini at DMAT in Italy, Michel Di Tommaso at the Instituto Meccanica dei Materiali in Switzerland, and James Weaver at the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering at Harvard University. The work was carried out with the assistance of the Archeological Museum of Priverno in Italy.