National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

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National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

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Now this does sound interesting.

Andrew Cote:
National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

Simulations published 1 hour ago on arxiv support LK-99 as the holy grail of modern material science and applied physics.
(arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892)

Here's the plain-english explanation:
- The simulations modeled what the original Korean authors proposed was happening to their material - where copper atoms were percolating into a crystal structure and replacing lead atoms, causing the crystal to strain slightly and contract by 0.5%. This unique structure was proposed to allow this amazing property.

- @sineatrix from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab simulated this using heavy-duty compute power from the Department of Energy, and looked to see what would happen to the 'electronic structure' of this material, meaning, what are the available conduction pathways in the material.

- It turns out that there are conduction pathways for electrons that are in just the right conditions and places that would enable them to 'superconduct'. More specifically, they were close to the 'Fermi Surface' which is like the sea-level of electrical energy, as in '0 ft above sea-level.' It's believed currently that the more conduction pathways close to the Fermi surface, the higher the temperature you can superconduct at (An analogy might be how its easier for planes to fly close to the surface of the ocean due to the 'ground effect' that gives them more lift.)

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This plot in particular shows the 'bands', or electron pathways, crossing above and below the Fermi surface.

- Lastly, these interesting conduction pathways only form when the copper atom percolates into the less likely location in the crystal lattice, or the 'higher energy' binding site. This means the material would be difficult to synthesize since only a small fraction of crystal gets its copper in just the right location.

This is insanely bullish for humanity.
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Well, seems those Koreans have got beyond the 'cold fusion' and 'reactionless thruster' pitfalls: Their LK-99 theory seems okay...

Remarkably, ingredients are 'commonplace', lead, copper, sulphur not being 'rare earth' exotica.

Brewing the optimal mix seems a tad tricky, but that may suddenly change.

I'm reminded how quickly graphene & bucky-balls went from curiosity to industrial...

Hopefully, in a couple of years, I may buy a cat-toy with hovering magnet and ambient super-conducting base...
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FWIW, if this mix works, it is hilariously SteamPunk: You may imagine Victorian-era inventors stumbling across it. Or, earlier, Medieval Alchemists. Next thing, we'll have some-one claim the Ancient Chinese invented it, along with paper and gun-powder...
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Re: National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

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First claimed successful replication of LK-99

Accomplished by a team at the Huazhong University of Science and Technology and posted 30 minutes ago.
More at link: https://twitter.com/andercot/status/168 ... JG_Vm2jjAA

A second claimed successful replication out of China:
Chinese Researchers from USTC claim to have replicated anti-magnetic and semi-levitating phenomena on Zhihu, a Chinese social media platform. The announcement was made on 2023-08-01 12:19 UST, shortly after a similar breakthrough by HUST.
More at link: https://twitter.com/alpshenry/status/16 ... JG_Vm2jjAA
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Micael wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:47 pm
First claimed successful replication of LK-99

Accomplished by a team at the Huazhong University of Science and Technology and posted 30 minutes ago.
More at link: https://twitter.com/andercot/status/168 ... JG_Vm2jjAA

A second claimed successful replication out of China:
Chinese Researchers from USTC claim to have replicated anti-magnetic and semi-levitating phenomena on Zhihu, a Chinese social media platform. The announcement was made on 2023-08-01 12:19 UST, shortly after a similar breakthrough by HUST.
More at link: https://twitter.com/alpshenry/status/16 ... JG_Vm2jjAA
Apparently, the Korean team pulled the trigger because the Chinese were getting ready to steal the credit--based on stolen work, even.
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Re: National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

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You need something you can make wires and strong magnets out of, this probably isn't the grail itself.

Superconducting power transmission, magnetic storage, even superconducting microchips eventually I suppose, but it's gotta be daily cheap.
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An opinion of someone not involved, Casey Handmer:
I have a PhD in theoretical physics, studied BCS theory, ran extremely complex numerical simulations, published papers on (optical) heterogeneous nanostructures, researched Landau level type stuff in 2 degree electron gas, ran calculations for SQUIDs.

I still have no strong intuition on LK99.

I am hopeful and optimistic. I have colleagues who specialized in materials science and superconductivity and they are almost as uncertain as me.

If we are lucky, we're about to learn more weird things about the universe.

This is the Dirac equation. Essentially everything people interact with except for gravity and radioactivity can be explained by this one equation.

One of my professors once said there were only two truly surprising corollaries of this equation, two things you would not expect. Life, and the fractional quantum Hall effect.

The early hints around LK99 are in the second category, but at much much higher temperature.

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Even if, as-is, the 'magnetic' tolerance is too small for 'windings', the material unsuitable for linear cabling, it up-ends paradigm.

How/Why it works at all, related or not to the 'seriously' or 'mildly' cryogenic materials, it is a vast leap beyond those...

Like those 'moiré-twisted' stacked-monolayers that behave unexpectedly, it is a pleasant surprise. As Whatsisname said, peering through tiny gap into Tut's tomb, "Wonderful Things !!"
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The possibility exists that it could be used as a coating for non superconducting materials to provide a pathway.

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First video of LK-99 Full Levitation, aka flux-pinning
https://twitter.com/andercot/status/168 ... JG_Vm2jjAA
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Looks like the replication efforts are bearing no fruit. Now to see if a sample from the LBNL tested at another lab demonstrates it, or if it's an equipment setup problem. I can see the issue being some dopant problem, or a contamination that is needed, or possibly a particular crystalline structure that duplication efforts haven't matched.
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State of play seems to be the precise chemical composition and crystal structure of LK-99 is 'ill-defined'.

Many, many labs and 'independent investigators' are surely racing to duplicate or better the Koreans' partial results.

Curiously, all the Chinese labs, regardless of being independent research or suspected pirates, have gone very, very quiet...

FWIW, this silence reminds me of how those impressive Chinese announcements of forthcoming nuclear fusion power was followed by 'crickets'...

I'm also reminded of how polyethylene was initially difficult to produce until the need for a near-catalytic trace of Oxygen was identified.

And, yes, 'FOGBANK', the arcane aerogel fill for nukes, whose Cold War recipe did not work when fetched from archive. IIRC, took several years and much urgent research to discover that modern ingredients were so much purer than of old, a near-catalytic cogener was missing...

Um, isn't that the converse of one reason the WW2 Germans' attempts to build 'atomic piles' failed ? The graphite they used as moderator contained traces of a 'neutron poison' such as Boron. Didn't help that the Norwegian resistance managed to sabotage many rail-tankers of 'Heavy Water'...
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Update: As yet, no-one has been able to replicate the original marvellous mix.

( Not even the original team ?? )

Like first 'magic angle' graphene etc, it may require some subtle, serendipitous 'doing' that, as yet, has escaped adequate documentation...

Or they may have been blind-sided by a 'Murphy Bomb' of ambiguous effects combining curiously...

I dare not giggle: As some-one who carefully followed cook-book recipe but got a pancake instead of soufflé, I prefer 'Science' to 'Art'...
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